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How sad that three years later these people are still spewing hatred for Clay and his fans and have found a new outlet for spreading their lies and false accusations. All of these emails can be found on the BOI board. Playing the race card three years ago didn't work then and it won't work now.
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Motherlove2 or emach1313 as we know her is still spewing her hate and her lies. Quote:
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They found out THREE YEARS AGO the hard way, the claymutt way. YOU DID IT ALL, you did it to him, you did it to him, you did it to him. Now you are desperately tagging blame on everyone except yourselves. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for EARNING your reputation. YOU DID IT, ALL BY YOURSELVES.
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THERE'S A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS Dear Friends: I understand that we all have a common goal in coming to this board and that is to Help Ruben by exposing Clay and his fans. We are extremely fierce in our quest, but WE CAN'T LOSE PERSPECTIVE HERE!!!!! We are proceeding with caution and not putting ALL our eggs in one basket. We want you to write your letters, but don't waste ALL the evidence on someone less significant (DJ's). We need to target Critics, in particular, because they are the ones who evaluate the sales of a CD. We need to emphasize the multiple CD purchases and provide them with proof. Please, PLease, be polite and NEVER mention Ruben or being a Ruben fan. We are taking the dissapointed Clay fan angle or any other angle as long as it doesn't smell like "disgruntled, bitter Ruben fans". I know we want to rip the elfin to pieces, but we have come too far to mess up. Good things happen to those who wait, we are patient. Continue the letter campaign, but use your discretion in writing to these people. Any indication that it is a mailing campaign and we will be doomed. So let's not get too impulsive. Okay? You are doing an excellent job with the letters and we have accomplished a lot. Keep up the good work!!!!! "Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle" Edited by: emach1313 at: 10/17/03 12:15 am
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Thankfully one of their own had a conscience and made the Sniper Board public. It's gone now but not forgotten. She wrote:
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What I am about to post here may shock some people. However, I don't think it will be any Clay Aiken fans that have ever dealt with the diehard Ruben Studdard group. I think the only fans to be shocked will be those in the Ruben Studdard camp. And they'll only be shocked because someone finally turned their back and called them out.
I won't be talking about all of his fans, just a small, select few that seem to be operating under the delusion that "nothing", and I mean nothing, can ever touch them. The few who spend all of their days on Bolt and the JRecords website, not to mention the Clay boards they frequent under various guises. The few who spend all of their time marching to the beat of Emach1300's and AngelicIsis' drums, including those two, themselves.
The point of this website? To let you know that AngelicIsis really is Jaysen Miller, and I can back that up.
Do you remember Jaysen Miller? Jaysen Miller wrote two very eloquent stories for Beavers On Idol about Clay Aiken. Two stories where he claimed to be a fan but was so turned off by the energy and devotion of the Clay fans that he felt the need to write. Each and every one of those stories were fabricated.
Jaysen Miller links:
Dear Mr Dj: Will you have a mind of your own?
Opinion of a fan ;www.beaversonidol.com/art...ponse.html and www.beaversonidol.com/articles/opinionofafan.html
As well as that, there is this. The below link will take you to a Google cached page where AngelicIsis signs Ruben's birthday guestbook notating Jaysen next to her name. This almost leads me to believe that those close to Ruben know she faked these stories and it was her way of waving and saying, "Hey! It's me!" Just scroll down the page until you hit the lightblue high-lighted text.
Guestbook entry: 216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:Slhec...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Another interesting thing to note is that if you do a Google search based on the results for Ruben Studdard and the name "Jaysen" the only thing that even appears is three results. Two that lead to the Jaysen Miller stories and one that leads right to Angelic Isis.
Google Results: www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-...ddard%22+jaysen
I know that all seems like conjecture but if you read this page fully I will be providing information directly from the horse's mouth.
There is a secret Ruben Studdard message board. One that you need to be a member to access. I have access to information posted on this board through a Ruben fan who has become a close friend of mine. She has become dejected by the level of fighting. There will be no peace coming from this board no matter what they try to feed you. In fact, even Ruben's mother has decided peace is not an option and has asked this group to continue fighting on Ruben's behalf.
Here is what they had to say about Ruben's mom:
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"You know what emach? This group is like a football team and you are the quarterback. If you quit the game, who the hell is going to lead the team? I'm all for a holiday break, but i'll be damned if I let 'them' punk me.
Have you forgotten that email that we got from Ms. Emily and company this week? Maybe we should enlighten the 'group'.
Emach and I had sent a long letter to Ms. Emily, which she received and dealt with. However she didn't email us back right away and we got frustrated, so we sent her another email stating that maybe they wanted us to lay off of everything. We had explained how we are referred to as "Ruben's Pit Bulls" and "Gangsta Girls" by a lot of the groups because of the way that we defend Ruben. We let Miss Emily know that we were willing to forego our tactics if that was her wish.
Well on Sunday night we got an email back informing us that the 'situation' had been dealt with and to please NOT stop supporting Ruben the way that we have!
YES they know about us Soulful group, yes Ruben knows as well, because Captain hand-delivered a letter that I had written about our group which included everyone's names.
So, to each his own, do whatever the hell ya wanna do, but my husband and I will keep doing our thang here. Emach, whatever you do you have my support 100%."
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I've seen it all with my own eyes and it isn't pretty. In fact, let me direct you to this image.
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That, my friends, is a link to their "banner". I think it speaks volumes for what they are capable of and how they really feel. Of course it is hosted on another site, which you can research yourself. This is the banner they use to giggle and scoff about each and every time they log on.
This board will offer you many forums to choose from, including a forum devoted entirely to Fred Bronson and his support of Clay. Of course no thread in there will talk about support in any way other than what sexual positions he and Clay might prefer were they ever to hook up, but it's there. They bash on the Clayboard, Bolt, RedHotTopic. They bash everyone they can get their hands on. Even past Ruben "insiders" are open for assault. Only the special few inside are exempt from their abuse. They formulate fake letter writing campaigns and mock Clay fans with every turn of their head.
They talk about their fake accounts on all of these boards. Who they are when they go in and what they say. They swap around these screennames in an effort to throw people off their trail.
Anyone who has dealt with them and has been cast aside, like my friend, will know I speak the truth.
As well, for Angel, Emach and the group, please check your own backyard. You've hurt a lot of people -- even Ruben's fans themselves -- and it's no surprise someone turned you out. Invoke a small amount of kindness and understanding and maybe these folks won't feel the need to forward around your private information. I'm not the only one who has seen this with my own eyes, many have.
That said, here is the information I am bringing to you. It needs to be out.
Make up your own minds.
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Here is my response from James Sheperd from Beavers Online. I even forgive him for his typo on my fake name. LOL
Hi Jason:
Thank you for your submission. I have reviewed it just once, but I think it is
quite suitable for publication. I enjoy seeing counter viewpoints, and your
article, plus the one you are refuting, help to support something I'm currently
writing.
I will let you know when your article is published.
Thanks again,
James Shepherd
I am sooooooooo tickled!!!!
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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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We need an applause smiley.
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Great!
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Whoopeee! Congratulations Angel. You've down us all proud.
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Thank you friends!!!
What raleighlady needs to recognize is that she is not dealing with amateurs when she deals with Ruben fans. She'd better have her s--t TIGHT, or she'll have an emach, bone, dallasivy, black panther, mymanisclay, or an angel on her azzz!!!
High FIVE mah sistahs!!!!
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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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Go Angel
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Perhaps you guys missed it, but Seasook emailed Raleighlady's article to 20/20 hoping they will investigate the reason why Clay is not getting the airplay the Claymutts think he deserves.
Topic: Clay and ABC's 20/20
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With raleighlady's permission I sent an email to ABC's 20/20 which included her masterpiece of an article Dear Mr DJ. Thought they might want to do a little investigative reporting on this. I'm on a mission now...
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hmmm...perhaps one of her 'detractors' should send my article to 20/20 with my permission....
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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Way to go angel. Can't wait until those stupid Claymutts read the article. What a joy it will be to read bolt.
Here's to you girl.....
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I'm On it, but it will add credibility if we ALL did as well!!!!! will get you the address!!!!!
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I'm so proud of you ladies!
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I will be happy to send it, I am on a mission too! Emach - Can you get me the address ? I have my reunion today so will send tomorrow.
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Ok,
I need one of our regular super militants to take the blame. I prefer Bone, because of her eloquent writing style. They can't go after Johnnie because she is never on Bolt anymore....so my idea is this:
Bone goes and posts on the Clay board, 'confessing' who she really is. She'll just say that she 'borrowed' my name not knowing that I (angel) had posted something in Ruben's guestbook. She'll say that she wrote the rebuttal because she has an opinion, and she'd do it again regardless of what they think. Etc. etc.
She tells them to not attack me (Angel) because it was her, and she'll say that she will post it on every board, and then she'll publicly apologize to me. Also Johnnie, you can say that you picked my name because it sounded like a 'guys' name, and you can say that you are a GUY - priceless!!!!
This will work because I have been moving ALL last week, and really didn't have time to do this, did I?
In fact, I won't go back to Bolt for a few more days....just to make it super real.
Questions, ideas, etc. Welcomed. I'm cracking up laughing that they can't let ANYTHING go. What are they gonna do, hunt me down and kill me?
Bring it ON!
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
Edited by: angelicisis at: 11/3/03 8:43 am
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Great idea, but only if Bones agrees to it!!! PLEASE!!!!!
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Angel, I'm game. What Clay board do I start with? Look, I have to run downtown for a couple of hours this morning so let me know. I tried Saturday to sign up for HotTopic and they emailed me my registration but for someone it's not going through.
But anyway, I'll be back and see what you suggests.
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Johnnie LOVE you!!!
Thanks so much girl....What i'm gonna do is to paste a couple of the emails here that they have sent me (so far I have 77). You can put them into your post on Bolt (please post there first) as 'proof' that you are the article's author.
Here is the very 1st email that I received from dbeer:
"So, why exactly are YOU threatened by Clay Aiken? Are Clay fans bothering you? Get a life!!" D Beer
Here is the last one which I received :
"How about...I love his voice..it's the best voice Ive heard in years." Linda Werner
Post here please Johnnie, after you do it please. So that we can all read it.
The most important thing is that you say that you read that it was AngelicIsis on another board, and how wrong there are/were. Thank you!!!!
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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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OH! Johnnie, you might also remind them how you were the one who edited the "Just For Fun" post. Just to let them know that you ain't no joke.
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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GREAT idea! Putting that just for fun in will really make it look good.
Ruben ROCKS my world!
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I was going to do that anyway. But Angel, they don't really seem to be discussing it on Bolt. The theory that a Ruben fan, a.k.a. Angel has not even been brought up. As of now they just think it is a jealous person. When I looked this morning on Bolt, there were a Beavorsidol thread but only three respondents. This seems to be more of an issue with some of the other Clay boards. The bolt babes right now are too entrenched in their get out the Clay requests prompted by Dancermom's post. Also, not sure if you are aware of it but Raleighlady will be writing a rebuttal focusing on Ruben fans because it was bought to her attention by someone posting your post that it was a known Ruben fan who wrote it. Someone even on That's The Clay suggested you be called out on it and that your post be sent to beavorsidol.com in an attempt to portray you as a fraud. Got this off that That's The Clay message board. Other than not giving your real name, I am sorry I don't see what the problem here is. The bitches are just looking for ways to distract from the truth. So I don't know, perhaps it will be better played out in a rebuttal to Raleighlady's rebuttal. But again, they're not talking about it on Bolt. Now if someone wants to bring it up? .
Girls, put your heads together and let's think on this real seriously. But I have no problem putting it out there that it is me, either on the Clay messages boards or even on beavorsidol.com. My question still is, so what if it's a Ruben fan? Are our opinions not worth listening to?
I gotta go now. I should have been gone but, you know, I can't get over this addiction.
Johnnie.
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Johnnie,
I get your point, but those Bolt babes have their own secret meeting place much like we do, and remember the old adage that when you don't hear anything...be suspicious. Just because they aren't talking about it on Bolt just lets me know that they are revving it up somewhere else. I still think that you should type it up and cut and paste it on each and every board. That way they KNOW that you are covering your bases. I just want you to start with Bolt for personal reasons. I have friends there, and don't want them to cut me off from my information sources. I.E. sherry9, llama, etc.
After you post it, then the other Ruben soldiers will come to your defense and state that why can't Ruben fans have opinions, blah blah blah....it'll be world war 3 on the Bolt boards today.
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I agree Angel. Johnnie just like we played down the incident about Shelly and the e-mals to Carson Daly I'm sure they are doing the same thing. I've been reading their boards and I promise you, they are up to no good.They are highly vindictive and nothing they will do will surprise me.
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I AM SO DOWN WITH THAT!!!!! I WILL COME OUT TODAY OR WHENEVER TO SAY THAT!!! I DON'T GIVE A DAMN... ITS THE @#%$ INTERNET!!!!!!! WTF CAN THEY DO TO US? THEY BETTER BE GLAD IT IS THE INTERNET OTHERWISE THEIR PUNKASSES WOULDN'T HAVE HALF AS MUCH TO SAY AND THEY KNOW IT....
whatever, man.......... i'll say i know who wrote it, i loved it, encouraged, and agree with every @#%$ word.. i don't give a s--t.... i would've written one of my own if i had the time, and i STILL might do it now that ppl are trippin so bad... but MY commentary will be going to vibe, ebony, essence, etc.. letting ppl know of all this petty bullshit.....
all of those bitches can kiss my ass!!!!! whatever you all want me to say, i'm saying it... i'm pulling EVERYBODY's card over there at the @#%$ clayboard..... hypocritical racist skanks....
AND I'm taking out my redskins frustration on them TOO? yo, its about to be 'braveheart' up in here!!!!!
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lmao IVY!
You are tripping.
I have to go out now so please keep me updated. Ivy, I am sending my cellphone number to your ezinbox. Please check it, and gimme a call later. Thanks girl!
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I also agree. I mean WTF We can't have opinions? Bitches!
With the election tomorrow, I don't know how much I will be on - but when I am here I have all my Ru pals' backs!
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What if we say we ALL wrote it! All 800,000 + Ruben fans!
Now there can be something to worry about if they can trace emails. I know AOL is impossible to trace and there is another one but can't remember it. In the war of the Bee Gees fan clubs, one fan club would actually hack into the other fan club's website on a regular basis. They signed them up for porn sites and any other spam. Just about anything you can do to someone with their email address and ISP number, they did it! Since these people are getting more and more insane, I would not be surprised to see them do these kinds of things. Just be prepared!
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Angel, I have no clue how are we going to explain this one. Read the threads below. They got you pegged as the author. Them bitches are smarter than I thought. Lesson learned!!! Next time use a different name. Raleighlady is also writing a rebuttal to the rebuttal!!!!
We need Ivy to hone in her skills and respond to that one. I wish I could write something, but I will one day. Johnnie, you are one awesome writer as well and very effective, we also need you to write something. BITCHES BITCHES I HATE THEM ALL !!!!
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They have a thread about Dateline. It mad me so mad I had to leave. It wouldn't look to good if "songsbyclay" ( me). Started telling those MF off. damn damn damn. GGGGRRRR!
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Do you think we will be here 40 years from now still seeing that kind of crap from Clay fans? Um....no.....I just remembered their ages. They'll all be dead by then!
Time to go to bed and dream about what it will be like in 2044!
Goodnight!
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that's why i can't go to RHT.. i've gone there twice and i was so pissed i replied... i can't go there anymore..lol
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RHT is nasty. I go there every now and then but because I am there under my own name I never reply. But I get nauseated because they are just so sick when it comes to Ruben. That is why I am certain that he threatens them, and that is what drives both them and career. How long they can keep the venom up is anyones guess. But like Gibby said the'll die off soon.
"I met Ruben" Clare and Sherri are awesome ladies! "Soulful Rocks"
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Motherlove2 or emach1313 as we know her is still spewing her hate and her lies. Quote:
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They found out THREE YEARS AGO the hard way, the claymutt way. YOU DID IT ALL, you did it to him, you did it to him, you did it to him. Now you are desperately tagging blame on everyone except yourselves. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for EARNING your reputation. YOU DID IT, ALL BY YOURSELVES.
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THERE'S A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS Dear Friends: I understand that we all have a common goal in coming to this board and that is to Help Ruben by exposing Clay and his fans. We are extremely fierce in our quest, but WE CAN'T LOSE PERSPECTIVE HERE!!!!! We are proceeding with caution and not putting ALL our eggs in one basket. We want you to write your letters, but don't waste ALL the evidence on someone less significant (DJ's). We need to target Critics, in particular, because they are the ones who evaluate the sales of a CD. We need to emphasize the multiple CD purchases and provide them with proof. Please, PLease, be polite and NEVER mention Ruben or being a Ruben fan. We are taking the dissapointed Clay fan angle or any other angle as long as it doesn't smell like "disgruntled, bitter Ruben fans". I know we want to rip the elfin to pieces, but we have come too far to mess up. Good things happen to those who wait, we are patient. Continue the letter campaign, but use your discretion in writing to these people. Any indication that it is a mailing campaign and we will be doomed. So let's not get too impulsive. Okay? You are doing an excellent job with the letters and we have accomplished a lot. Keep up the good work!!!!! "Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle" Edited by: emach1313 at: 10/17/03 12:15 am
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Thankfully one of their own had a conscience and made the Sniper Board public. It's gone now but not forgotten. She wrote:
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What I am about to post here may shock some people. However, I don't think it will be any Clay Aiken fans that have ever dealt with the diehard Ruben Studdard group. I think the only fans to be shocked will be those in the Ruben Studdard camp. And they'll only be shocked because someone finally turned their back and called them out.
I won't be talking about all of his fans, just a small, select few that seem to be operating under the delusion that "nothing", and I mean nothing, can ever touch them. The few who spend all of their days on Bolt and the JRecords website, not to mention the Clay boards they frequent under various guises. The few who spend all of their time marching to the beat of Emach1300's and AngelicIsis' drums, including those two, themselves.
The point of this website? To let you know that AngelicIsis really is Jaysen Miller, and I can back that up.
Do you remember Jaysen Miller? Jaysen Miller wrote two very eloquent stories for Beavers On Idol about Clay Aiken. Two stories where he claimed to be a fan but was so turned off by the energy and devotion of the Clay fans that he felt the need to write. Each and every one of those stories were fabricated.
Jaysen Miller links:
Dear Mr Dj: Will you have a mind of your own?
Opinion of a fan ;www.beaversonidol.com/art...ponse.html and www.beaversonidol.com/articles/opinionofafan.html
As well as that, there is this. The below link will take you to a Google cached page where AngelicIsis signs Ruben's birthday guestbook notating Jaysen next to her name. This almost leads me to believe that those close to Ruben know she faked these stories and it was her way of waving and saying, "Hey! It's me!" Just scroll down the page until you hit the lightblue high-lighted text.
Guestbook entry: 216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:Slhec...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Another interesting thing to note is that if you do a Google search based on the results for Ruben Studdard and the name "Jaysen" the only thing that even appears is three results. Two that lead to the Jaysen Miller stories and one that leads right to Angelic Isis.
Google Results: www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-...ddard%22+jaysen
I know that all seems like conjecture but if you read this page fully I will be providing information directly from the horse's mouth.
There is a secret Ruben Studdard message board. One that you need to be a member to access. I have access to information posted on this board through a Ruben fan who has become a close friend of mine. She has become dejected by the level of fighting. There will be no peace coming from this board no matter what they try to feed you. In fact, even Ruben's mother has decided peace is not an option and has asked this group to continue fighting on Ruben's behalf.
Here is what they had to say about Ruben's mom:
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"You know what emach? This group is like a football team and you are the quarterback. If you quit the game, who the hell is going to lead the team? I'm all for a holiday break, but i'll be damned if I let 'them' punk me.
Have you forgotten that email that we got from Ms. Emily and company this week? Maybe we should enlighten the 'group'.
Emach and I had sent a long letter to Ms. Emily, which she received and dealt with. However she didn't email us back right away and we got frustrated, so we sent her another email stating that maybe they wanted us to lay off of everything. We had explained how we are referred to as "Ruben's Pit Bulls" and "Gangsta Girls" by a lot of the groups because of the way that we defend Ruben. We let Miss Emily know that we were willing to forego our tactics if that was her wish.
Well on Sunday night we got an email back informing us that the 'situation' had been dealt with and to please NOT stop supporting Ruben the way that we have!
YES they know about us Soulful group, yes Ruben knows as well, because Captain hand-delivered a letter that I had written about our group which included everyone's names.
So, to each his own, do whatever the hell ya wanna do, but my husband and I will keep doing our thang here. Emach, whatever you do you have my support 100%."
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I've seen it all with my own eyes and it isn't pretty. In fact, let me direct you to this image.
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That, my friends, is a link to their "banner". I think it speaks volumes for what they are capable of and how they really feel. Of course it is hosted on another site, which you can research yourself. This is the banner they use to giggle and scoff about each and every time they log on.
This board will offer you many forums to choose from, including a forum devoted entirely to Fred Bronson and his support of Clay. Of course no thread in there will talk about support in any way other than what sexual positions he and Clay might prefer were they ever to hook up, but it's there. They bash on the Clayboard, Bolt, RedHotTopic. They bash everyone they can get their hands on. Even past Ruben "insiders" are open for assault. Only the special few inside are exempt from their abuse. They formulate fake letter writing campaigns and mock Clay fans with every turn of their head.
They talk about their fake accounts on all of these boards. Who they are when they go in and what they say. They swap around these screennames in an effort to throw people off their trail.
Anyone who has dealt with them and has been cast aside, like my friend, will know I speak the truth.
As well, for Angel, Emach and the group, please check your own backyard. You've hurt a lot of people -- even Ruben's fans themselves -- and it's no surprise someone turned you out. Invoke a small amount of kindness and understanding and maybe these folks won't feel the need to forward around your private information. I'm not the only one who has seen this with my own eyes, many have.
That said, here is the information I am bringing to you. It needs to be out.
Make up your own minds.
"The Truth"
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Here is my response from James Sheperd from Beavers Online. I even forgive him for his typo on my fake name. LOL
Hi Jason:
Thank you for your submission. I have reviewed it just once, but I think it is
quite suitable for publication. I enjoy seeing counter viewpoints, and your
article, plus the one you are refuting, help to support something I'm currently
writing.
I will let you know when your article is published.
Thanks again,
James Shepherd
I am sooooooooo tickled!!!!
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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We need an applause smiley.
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Great!
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Whoopeee! Congratulations Angel. You've down us all proud.
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Thank you friends!!!
What raleighlady needs to recognize is that she is not dealing with amateurs when she deals with Ruben fans. She'd better have her s--t TIGHT, or she'll have an emach, bone, dallasivy, black panther, mymanisclay, or an angel on her azzz!!!
High FIVE mah sistahs!!!!
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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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Go Angel
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Perhaps you guys missed it, but Seasook emailed Raleighlady's article to 20/20 hoping they will investigate the reason why Clay is not getting the airplay the Claymutts think he deserves.
Topic: Clay and ABC's 20/20
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With raleighlady's permission I sent an email to ABC's 20/20 which included her masterpiece of an article Dear Mr DJ. Thought they might want to do a little investigative reporting on this. I'm on a mission now...
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hmmm...perhaps one of her 'detractors' should send my article to 20/20 with my permission....
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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Way to go angel. Can't wait until those stupid Claymutts read the article. What a joy it will be to read bolt.
Here's to you girl.....
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I'm On it, but it will add credibility if we ALL did as well!!!!! will get you the address!!!!!
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I'm so proud of you ladies!
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I will be happy to send it, I am on a mission too! Emach - Can you get me the address ? I have my reunion today so will send tomorrow.
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Ok,
I need one of our regular super militants to take the blame. I prefer Bone, because of her eloquent writing style. They can't go after Johnnie because she is never on Bolt anymore....so my idea is this:
Bone goes and posts on the Clay board, 'confessing' who she really is. She'll just say that she 'borrowed' my name not knowing that I (angel) had posted something in Ruben's guestbook. She'll say that she wrote the rebuttal because she has an opinion, and she'd do it again regardless of what they think. Etc. etc.
She tells them to not attack me (Angel) because it was her, and she'll say that she will post it on every board, and then she'll publicly apologize to me. Also Johnnie, you can say that you picked my name because it sounded like a 'guys' name, and you can say that you are a GUY - priceless!!!!
This will work because I have been moving ALL last week, and really didn't have time to do this, did I?
In fact, I won't go back to Bolt for a few more days....just to make it super real.
Questions, ideas, etc. Welcomed. I'm cracking up laughing that they can't let ANYTHING go. What are they gonna do, hunt me down and kill me?
Bring it ON!
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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Great idea, but only if Bones agrees to it!!! PLEASE!!!!!
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Angel, I'm game. What Clay board do I start with? Look, I have to run downtown for a couple of hours this morning so let me know. I tried Saturday to sign up for HotTopic and they emailed me my registration but for someone it's not going through.
But anyway, I'll be back and see what you suggests.
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Johnnie LOVE you!!!
Thanks so much girl....What i'm gonna do is to paste a couple of the emails here that they have sent me (so far I have 77). You can put them into your post on Bolt (please post there first) as 'proof' that you are the article's author.
Here is the very 1st email that I received from dbeer:
"So, why exactly are YOU threatened by Clay Aiken? Are Clay fans bothering you? Get a life!!" D Beer
Here is the last one which I received :
"How about...I love his voice..it's the best voice Ive heard in years." Linda Werner
Post here please Johnnie, after you do it please. So that we can all read it.
The most important thing is that you say that you read that it was AngelicIsis on another board, and how wrong there are/were. Thank you!!!!
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And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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OH! Johnnie, you might also remind them how you were the one who edited the "Just For Fun" post. Just to let them know that you ain't no joke.
...."It's the little things that only I knooow, those are the things that make you mine, all mine....
And it's the flying without wings, and that's the joy it brings. I'm flying without wings."
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GREAT idea! Putting that just for fun in will really make it look good.
Ruben ROCKS my world!
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I was going to do that anyway. But Angel, they don't really seem to be discussing it on Bolt. The theory that a Ruben fan, a.k.a. Angel has not even been brought up. As of now they just think it is a jealous person. When I looked this morning on Bolt, there were a Beavorsidol thread but only three respondents. This seems to be more of an issue with some of the other Clay boards. The bolt babes right now are too entrenched in their get out the Clay requests prompted by Dancermom's post. Also, not sure if you are aware of it but Raleighlady will be writing a rebuttal focusing on Ruben fans because it was bought to her attention by someone posting your post that it was a known Ruben fan who wrote it. Someone even on That's The Clay suggested you be called out on it and that your post be sent to beavorsidol.com in an attempt to portray you as a fraud. Got this off that That's The Clay message board. Other than not giving your real name, I am sorry I don't see what the problem here is. The bitches are just looking for ways to distract from the truth. So I don't know, perhaps it will be better played out in a rebuttal to Raleighlady's rebuttal. But again, they're not talking about it on Bolt. Now if someone wants to bring it up? .
Girls, put your heads together and let's think on this real seriously. But I have no problem putting it out there that it is me, either on the Clay messages boards or even on beavorsidol.com. My question still is, so what if it's a Ruben fan? Are our opinions not worth listening to?
I gotta go now. I should have been gone but, you know, I can't get over this addiction.
Johnnie.
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Johnnie,
I get your point, but those Bolt babes have their own secret meeting place much like we do, and remember the old adage that when you don't hear anything...be suspicious. Just because they aren't talking about it on Bolt just lets me know that they are revving it up somewhere else. I still think that you should type it up and cut and paste it on each and every board. That way they KNOW that you are covering your bases. I just want you to start with Bolt for personal reasons. I have friends there, and don't want them to cut me off from my information sources. I.E. sherry9, llama, etc.
After you post it, then the other Ruben soldiers will come to your defense and state that why can't Ruben fans have opinions, blah blah blah....it'll be world war 3 on the Bolt boards today.
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I agree Angel. Johnnie just like we played down the incident about Shelly and the e-mals to Carson Daly I'm sure they are doing the same thing. I've been reading their boards and I promise you, they are up to no good.They are highly vindictive and nothing they will do will surprise me.
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I AM SO DOWN WITH THAT!!!!! I WILL COME OUT TODAY OR WHENEVER TO SAY THAT!!! I DON'T GIVE A DAMN... ITS THE @#%$ INTERNET!!!!!!! WTF CAN THEY DO TO US? THEY BETTER BE GLAD IT IS THE INTERNET OTHERWISE THEIR PUNKASSES WOULDN'T HAVE HALF AS MUCH TO SAY AND THEY KNOW IT....
whatever, man.......... i'll say i know who wrote it, i loved it, encouraged, and agree with every @#%$ word.. i don't give a s--t.... i would've written one of my own if i had the time, and i STILL might do it now that ppl are trippin so bad... but MY commentary will be going to vibe, ebony, essence, etc.. letting ppl know of all this petty bullshit.....
all of those bitches can kiss my ass!!!!! whatever you all want me to say, i'm saying it... i'm pulling EVERYBODY's card over there at the @#%$ clayboard..... hypocritical racist skanks....
AND I'm taking out my redskins frustration on them TOO? yo, its about to be 'braveheart' up in here!!!!!
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lmao IVY!
You are tripping.
I have to go out now so please keep me updated. Ivy, I am sending my cellphone number to your ezinbox. Please check it, and gimme a call later. Thanks girl!
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I also agree. I mean WTF We can't have opinions? Bitches!
With the election tomorrow, I don't know how much I will be on - but when I am here I have all my Ru pals' backs!
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What if we say we ALL wrote it! All 800,000 + Ruben fans!
Now there can be something to worry about if they can trace emails. I know AOL is impossible to trace and there is another one but can't remember it. In the war of the Bee Gees fan clubs, one fan club would actually hack into the other fan club's website on a regular basis. They signed them up for porn sites and any other spam. Just about anything you can do to someone with their email address and ISP number, they did it! Since these people are getting more and more insane, I would not be surprised to see them do these kinds of things. Just be prepared!
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Angel, I have no clue how are we going to explain this one. Read the threads below. They got you pegged as the author. Them bitches are smarter than I thought. Lesson learned!!! Next time use a different name. Raleighlady is also writing a rebuttal to the rebuttal!!!!
We need Ivy to hone in her skills and respond to that one. I wish I could write something, but I will one day. Johnnie, you are one awesome writer as well and very effective, we also need you to write something. BITCHES BITCHES I HATE THEM ALL !!!!
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They have a thread about Dateline. It mad me so mad I had to leave. It wouldn't look to good if "songsbyclay" ( me). Started telling those MF off. damn damn damn. GGGGRRRR!
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Do you think we will be here 40 years from now still seeing that kind of crap from Clay fans? Um....no.....I just remembered their ages. They'll all be dead by then!
Time to go to bed and dream about what it will be like in 2044!
Goodnight!
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that's why i can't go to RHT.. i've gone there twice and i was so pissed i replied... i can't go there anymore..lol
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RHT is nasty. I go there every now and then but because I am there under my own name I never reply. But I get nauseated because they are just so sick when it comes to Ruben. That is why I am certain that he threatens them, and that is what drives both them and career. How long they can keep the venom up is anyones guess. But like Gibby said the'll die off soon.
"I met Ruben" Clare and Sherri are awesome ladies! "Soulful Rocks"
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Can you believe they are rehashing this crap?
Good lord...move on, people. Sheesh...hold a grudge much?
How can they get any more pathetic?
Wonder how come he won't let his followers know there is an open blog for them to post on?
Well when you can't find anything dated today to stir up the turd, you dig back deep into the archives for your material.
Someone is definitely feeding the beast with this material. Or he has been seriously obsessed with Clay for years.
The bad thing about all this is they really haven't stopped Clay at all.
They did hurt Rube very much. Even AI calls him a failure. Shame really.
What bothered me today was the link that was posted on stalker boy's blog made it look like the comments were dated today. I know there are people who won't bother to page back and see they were from 2003.
I just don't comprehend investing so much time and effort into someone you don't like. Their time would be so much better spent supporting who they do like.
Ummm...I was looking back over some of that stuff and there is someone named "Johnnie" who posted. Don't know if that Johnnie was a girl since I wasn't really paying close attention at the time.
Anyone know?
You know, truth, the people reading this crap over there have to know it's old stuff, the dates are on the emails, etc. If they don't, then they really didn't want to know, anyway.
Talk about bringing up ancient history ! All the air fresheners in the world can't hide the smell of desperation .
I think Groucho, Emach and their followers are all deathly afraid that Clay's new CD will once again outshine those of their Idols.
Groucho must be thrilled that Kelly is doing so well - and he wants her to stay on top.
Ruben has an album due out soon, Emach doesn't want to see a repeat from the first albums.
It's all such a stupid waste of time as Clay is really close friends with both Kelly and Ruben and the three of them don't look at themselves as competitors.
Have to admit that I am still a Clelly fan at heart and would love to see Clay and Kelly make a big announcement that they have been a couple since their tour together. Wouldn't it be so fun to see the heads explode!
OMG, that would be priceless!!! Groucho would rip out his remaining hair and it would be all over for him.
Hee...hee...hehehehehehehehehehehehe!!
Too funny.
I'm sorry, after the run ins with Groucho and the others I could never be supportive of even thinking about a Clelly. I see her, I see Groucho right now. Maybe someday...but I can get into Groucho's head exploding.
Well, well, our comments made "the blog". Sick huh?
Someone is definitely feeding the beast with this material. Or he has been seriously obsessed with Clay for years.
Yea, and all the names are on this blog.(thanks TR) They need to seek help for this and now! I hear they have really good drugs for depression now a days.
I vote we just stop all of this and make Clay the best of the best.
Well, said Anon. Clay is the best of the best and I love him to pieces. I turn my attention to him and all the great friends I've made over the last 3 years. Sweet pickles are fine but sour pickles make me fart and I'm willing to give them up.
Unbelievable! So, basically, all this Clay-hate has been going on for the past 3 years??? I knew Ruben's fans were as fanatical about Ru as we are about Clay, but I had no idea they were playing in the same ballpark that jp is now using! And Clay has ALWAYS taken the high road ~ "It's not a competition" and continually stating how he considers Ru one of his closest friends (though that may have changed in the last year or so if for no other reason that Clay is soooo busy). And they call US hateful? I find it strange (and extremely disturbing) that the biggest haters and muck-rakers of all accuse Clay's fans of doing what they're doing. And they honestly don't think they're doing anything bad. Scary stuff, that! Thanks for bringing us the truth. I'll let my local gals know to check out your blog!
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