Truth Rules

A blog for fans of Clay Aiken. It may take a while but in the end, truth will win out over lies. Keep it clean, no threats ... and if I don't like what you say I own the delete key.

Tuesday, June 06, 2006

The Supporting Cast

WARNING - not for the faint of heart.


Consider this another PSA.

The cast of supporting characters in their own words (Survivor Sucks):

Groucho (aka ketchupmoney, nu2clay, tidetoit, haikugirl, 7thfairway, scarletnola, arrowspell, The Marquesan Godfather, "Insider" and anonymous among others)

...as ketchupmoney - (4/2/06 2:35 pm) (pg 338)
Re: Are all Claymates complete idiots?
I sense I'm on life support here - thats unsettling, and since the mods think "I NEED A LIFE" - it's probably time to find a new way/place to express myself on this issue if I feel the need to. That presents lots of exciting possibilities and makes it easy to make way for the NEW and to move on from the OLD (no matter how much I loved it).Time for an honest straightforward sentiment before my chord is cut and SUCKS BLACK DEATH transports me to internet hell. I've escaped internet hell many times so I don't fear it. This time is different though. I will move on instead of getting back. The Claymates are the most cruel and crass group of civilized mature women I've ever encountered. That IS why I HATE them. Their fate is already determined but they're too stupid to see the handwriting on the wall. It's over Mates. Clay will never be a Pop Star and you will never experience the joy of the mainstreams acceptance of him. You are utterly alone in your delusions - and soon, although you can't see it because of you're ignorance, your own self destruction.
Edited by: ketchupmoney at: 4/3/06 2:08 am

(mod edit) (4/3/06 2:24 am)
Here, I stirred the shit from other boards after being warned explicitly not to. I am an example of natural selection, and I have been banned.
Edited by: MadWomanNYC at: 4/3/06 5:55 pm
...ah, but he didn't stay banned.
as nu2clay 6/5/06 8:33 pm) pg17
Re: Clay Aiken Has No Peers
Anyone who knows anything about Clay Aikens character, persona, and personal behavior and doesn't depsise him is despicable themselves. There'll never be an end to the disgust and revulsion Aiken inspires in many people. He's an insufferable, sanctimonius liar, virtiolic pissy she-man, and dishonest fruitloop fraud. I reserve real hate for people who intentionally harm children and anyone else who can't protect themselves. I sincerely believe Clay Aiken is so vile and fucked up he rationalizes his actions and justifies them to himself to continue his heterosexual fraud to avenge everyone who made fun of him throughout his life. His vitriolic desire to disguise his sexual motives to fool young, inexperienced, impressionable, girls into thinking he's not gay should be a crime. I don't give a shit about pathetic,loveless, old women with no self esteem but children and young adolescents are sacred and Aiken is their enemy in every way. Theres a simmering rumor of an underage boy coming out with his story of Aikens attempt to seduce him into a REAL gay sexual encounter via the internet. If it's true it'll destroy Aiken. It certainly makes sense to explain why RCA is offering no word about the CDs release date, why theres been no statement or defense against very specific tabloid charges that offer photos and other hard evidence of their validity, and why Aiken hasn't taken a question from a journalist or reporter since the scandal broke. My instincts have been right about Aikens character from the first moment I focused on him. The rumors have been simmering beneath the surface since the beginning and now they're out in the open and Aiken has gone underground hiding from anyone with a question. His performance on the Idol finale was the gayest moment on television since Richard Simmons was on the David Letterman Show. Aikens life and career are a joke and don't need my input but Aiken pissed me off by sicking his deluded fucked up Claymates on Kelly Clarkson and her young fans. Clay and the Mates deserve all that Karma has in store for them and watching it fall on top of them is pure unbridled joy.
Edited by: nu2clay at: 6/5/06 8:42 pm

Emach1313 (aka MotherLove2, hoppitywabbit2, garfieldlover, and anonymous among others) Favorite saying - Boo F**king Hoo

Some background: Deception of a Fan by James Shepherd 12/27/03

as Emach1313 (5/4/06 10:34 pm) pg 342
Quote:
Unfortunately a bad rep is very hard to shake. You have been forever linked to Groucho, emach, JP et al - a really freaky disturbed bunch. End Quote

It is not coincidential that I would be here today. Couple of hours ago or so I was talking to a REAL Clay fan whom I consider a real friend and whom I have agreed to disagree on many topics (not just Clay) and she told me how my name is being dragged at some Clay's friend blog and how I'm being blamed for a lot of what's going on at John Paulus blog. Unfortunately I can't avoid that. They need a fall guy(s) and I'm going to be one for them for as long as I live. I only want to say one thing, and I could care less whether you believe me or not, truth is I never hid to say that I always believed Clay was gay. I never hid from saying he was a manipulator and that his fans were blindly following a fantasy and I also said from day one that his fans would be the cause of his downfall because the way they decided to promote him. Promoting, loving, following and embracing his art and talent was not a problem. As fans of any artists we do that anyway, but what I found to be a problem was the way the fandom adopted the attitude that nobody else BUT Clay was worth being into the entertainment biz. Whereas it may have been just a rabid fraction of the fandom as a whole or not, they did and said some vile things attacking not only Ruben sites and fans as well as any other artists coming from AI that may have represented a perceived threat to Clay. They undermined, denigraded, belittled and ridiculed others and set out to prove a point. Avenging the "slight" of AI and 19E became a goal. When a little ol'group of Ruben fans set out to show the "best" or "creme of the crop" of the Aiken fandom it was meant to show what they were capable of. It is one thing to support an artist, another to do it with a vindictive heart. We didn't have to go too far to harvest our proof. It was harvested out their own extensive crop of vile threads, racist remarks and thoughts, hateful comments found at THEIR OWN sites and from ours as they would come and "grace" us with their vile. Remember Michael Nozzi from Bolt? The biggest fan ever. The very same one claymates worshipped at Bolt? Well, we unmasked him as the racist poster, who would've "thunk" huh? Like his, many more posts were "harvested" and YES, presented as proof. We did sent a few emails to DJs making them aware of their plans to bombard them with hate mail for "dissing" Clay and ALWAYS sent them WRITTEN proof. We never made up stories. It was DOCUMENTED in black and white (no pun intended) and the same was done with ANY emails sent because we knew we would be accused of making up stuff. Even then, they denied what was obvious. So, they can spin everything they want to. They can deny and paint themselves as martyrs, but those outside their bubble are very aware of who they are. Oh, and sorry but NO! we did NOT call anyone on the phone, NOR did we embarked in a SMEAR campaign. That's YOUR spin. Blame me or my sistahs all you want. I'm not interested in engaging any of your sorry souls anymore. I KNOW what you are capable of and I admit you are one scary bunch whom I want no part of.

Clay is pretty much a non-issue for me at this point. His own actions speak for themselves and HIS OWN FANS are finally seeing the light. It wasn't about being Gay, it was about the lies and the holier-than-thou attitude. Am I glad this is all out in the open now? YES, and thus the reason I don't give a rats ass anymore. As I predicted long time ago his fans finally did him in. I just told my friend the same and I also believe that even when John may have opened a can of worms, it was Clay's fans who made sure the can spilled all over the place when all they had to do was LEAVE.IT.ALONE. They felt it was better to stir the shit up and once it stunk up they cried foul and blame SOMEONE ELSE as usual.

No longer had I spoken to my friend someone else brought to my attention this post here. Shannon or LTGE, you don't have to be ashamed of being associated with me. You don't know me or what I'm about. I just speak my mind just like you do. As much as anyone would like to think I know Groucho, I don't! and my disdain for CERTAIN fraction of Clays fans is not THAT deep as to do or say what he does. I don't even agree with a lot of things he says, but that's HIS right. Now, I despise those who felt the right to infringe in my privacy, THAT is sick, but somehow it is a common practice among that certain group and celebrated by their minions. They feel putting someone in harms way because of their public opinions is justifiable, how sick is that? That's when I decided they are one scary MF'er group and it was better to leave them self-destruct than getting in their way. As evil as you may find me, I would NEVER do that no one, but I WILL speak my mind and my words can be as cutting as the sharpest blade at times.

All I want to say is that I'm tired of this BS. I'm not and have not being, in a looooooooooong time interested in the same BS of THREE years ago. I'm not interested in "exposing" the claymates because that was done already THREE years ago and every turn they take now people KNOW who and how they really are. I don't care for them, Clay or any of this crap. I have enough drama, grief and "stuff" to deal with in REAL time that I don't have any more time for them insane people. As of now my only interest is waitng on Ruben's CD release hopefully in August and that's it. Life itself keeps me busy and I have by far, more serious things to deal with than to be concerned with you people any more. I did wanted to set the record straight (for all it's worth) and to ask you to find another scapegoat. This one is dead and can't carry anyone's blame no more. I was hoping you would realize by now that you DO have more "haters" (as you call those of us who speak the truth you refused to hear) among Clay fans themselves than you care to admit. If anything, John Paulus provided an outlet for those who for so long have been silenced and banned from their own sites for speaking up. Those are the real fans of Clay. They love him, but are not blinded . Now they have a place to speak and I hope they remain anonymous because I shudder just thinking what can be done to them by the mutts. Sad.

Thanks for the good and bad times. Kelly fans you rock! and much more success to Kelly, she's worked hard and deserves every bit of it. To those Clay fans I have had the pleasure of *gasp* talking to, thanks for the opportunity. To those low-lifes good for nothing bullies and delusional stop at nothing Claymutts much luck in your self-destruction and that of someone who could have been great have you not ruined him in your over-zelousness. I bid my good byes. I'm through with all this crap. It was real and it was fun and damn it! IT WAS real fun!!! I leave you with a phrase from my latest favorite song: "I'm so glad that I'll never fit inThat will never be meOutcasts and girls with ambitionthat's what I want to see" from "Stupid Girls" by Pink

Adios!!! Buh Bye, Sayonara, Adieu, Ciao!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ilovegreeneyes (aka Shannon(pickanumber))

as Ilovegreeneyes (5/5/06 12:06 am) pg 343
Quote:
Shannon or LTGE, you don't have to be ashamed of being associated with me. End Quote

emach, make no mistake I take PRIDE in being associated with you and anyone who continues to speak up and out against the Claymates. They have, in a few short years, terrorized the crap out of many, I am not one of them and it's nice to know I'm not the only one. I just find it hysterical that, collectively, a group could be so stupid as to believe that it's just the three of us. You, me and Groucho....we're a regular force of nature....working tirelessly to ruin and destroy Clay and Claynation.

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If you got this far my apologies. It just really bothers me that this RCA/"Insider" crap being posted on that other blog is upsetting some and I want you to know who and where it's coming from.

25 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was posted on that other blog and amazingly was not deleted.

Anonymous said
Yo, you are NOT exposing Clay and you are not ruining his career. I just got some inside scoop myself and Clay is on target for a major blitz with his new RCA CD. I have a good friend who works there. Your insider is full of crap and then some. You have no POWER. NONE! Aiken is a much wanted entity in the music business. No one cares about his personal life anyway. Like anyone in this f*cked up world cares if someone is a good person. Look around you and see how it just doesn't matter what people do. Talent and Money is all that matters. Clay has talent and he makes big bucks. Open you eyes fools and look at what the real buzz is. It has nothing to do with you and the lies on this blog are totally laughable. LMAO here. What are you gonna do when he sells multi-platinum again? Renshaw wanted Aiken and he is very happy to have him. FOOLS!

I am not going to dialogue with any of you here. My only reason for posting here is to set the record straight and let the people who do support Aiken know that this so called "insider" is not on the inside of Aiken's news. Who in their right mind would talk to a loser who posts inside information of this detail on a liar's blog. Get real people. The so called "insider" is a well known entity around many of the boards....Does anyone go to Sucks or TwoP? This "insider" has had it out for Aiken for years. He is a huge Kelly Clarkson fan. Well so am I but NEWS FLASH! Kelly Clarkson and Clay Aiken are really good friends. I know that for a fact too. They are tight! So back to this raving lunatic who calls himself an "insider". I know more about what is happening than he does, trust me. All of his tales are HIS fantasies about what is happening. I read where he said Clay was not a wealthy man. Holy crud! Clay is one smart dude who has made many millions in the past three years and has not squandered his hard earned cash. Clay likes to play safe. Anyone who has followed his career knows that for a fact. This dude who posts here is really hoping to derail Aiken but Aiken has already taken off and he is going farther and farther out there. He's a major star...A List and he is treated like that by most of the people he deals with in the industry. They may not all dig his musical style but once they get to know him, they dig him. He has a great reputation with the people who matter. Simon Renshaw manages the Chicks as well as Aiken. He is a cool dude with a very liberal agenda. Look him up. He and Clay have a lot in common. Clay is a liberal too. People think they know Clay Aiken cuz they react to an image they have of him but there is plenty of real info out there about him. He is the real deal...a good guy who is not going anywhere but UP! I'm out of here for now.

4:55 AM

June 06, 2006 4:22 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Damn, this crap is getting old.

I've read this stuff before but it never ceases to amaze me....what is wrong with these people?

I've never seen such screwed up people in my life.

Maybe stalkerboy's karma is being hooked up with that crazy loon of a busdriver!!!

June 06, 2006 4:31 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Yes! YES! Y-E-S!!!!! Put the Truth out there, Truth Rules.

OMG! About freaking time and the timing is perfect.

June 06, 2006 4:39 PM  
Anonymous Polly Graf said...

I don't want to be a downer, but let's put everything together in one place.

Emach is forever giving her farewell address. She did it at PH, and wherever this latest post came from. Yet, she still shows up now and then. She may not be posting as much, but don't kid yourself that she isn't lurking.

I submit the following post by Emach to her crew:

THERE'S A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS

Dear Friends:

I understand that we all have a common goal in coming to this board and that is to Help Ruben by exposing Clay and his fans. We are extremely fierce in our quest, but WE CAN'T LOSE PERSPECTIVE HERE!!!!!

We are proceeding with caution and not putting ALL our eggs in one basket. We want you to write your letters, but don't waste ALL the evidence on someone less significant (DJ's).

We need to target Critics, in particular, because they are the ones who evaluate the sales of a CD. We need to emphasize the multiple CD purchases and provide them with proof.

Please, PLease, be polite and NEVER mention Ruben or being a Ruben fan. We are taking the dissapointed Clay fan angle or any other angle as long as it doesn't smell like "disgruntled, bitter Ruben fans".

I know we want to rip the elfin to pieces, but we have come too far to mess up. Good things happen to those who wait, we are patient.

Continue the letter campaign, but use your discretion in writing to these people. Any indication that it is a mailing campaign and we will be doomed. So let's not get too impulsive. Okay?

You are doing an excellent job with the letters and we have accomplished a lot. Keep up the good work!!!!!

"Never underestimate the power of a Ruben Wackadoodle"

Edited by: emach1313 at: 10/17/03 12:15 am

June 06, 2006 5:33 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Polly Graf, that was one Emach post I would also like to have seen front and center. It really is time to expose these b*stards and b*tches.

June 06, 2006 5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

June 06, 2006 6:00 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Do we want that link posted for the stalkerboy to peruse? I realize it makes emach look bad (or it should) but we all know he manipulates the info. to suit himself...

Just asking....

June 06, 2006 6:21 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

I wonder if anyone has ever posted that link over there. I'm wavering here, Yeah That, because I feel it's the right time to just throw it all out like dirty dishwater and then walk away. I do see your point about the spin but I want to bury them in their own filth as soon as possible.

The NE is now focusing on Taylor and the KCE tweenies and possibly Emach's group attacked the American Idol message boards as well as others. They must be in a panic that Taylor and Katherine are going to be too close to or exceed Kelly's and Ruben's sales.

What a frickin' pitiful life these people lead.

June 06, 2006 6:36 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

I deleted it but it was posted there previously.

Emach1300 posted there a few days ago too, long after that "goodbye".

June 06, 2006 6:45 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

She posted just recently? God, what a maroon she is.

These people must bleed lies...that's all I can figure.

I didn't care that the link was here...was just wondering. I'm sure they have access to everything anyway.

June 06, 2006 6:48 PM  
Anonymous Polly Graf said...

The BOI link was posted many times at PH.

This was posted at the JP blog:

"Did you get the news Groucho? In a Yahoo Alert tonight. Read the first line.

LOS ANGELES, June 6 /PRNewswire/ --The MOST-TALKED ABOUT FEMALE SINGER of 2006, Katharine McPhee, has signed with Simon Fuller's 19 Recordings Limited and RCA, in conjunction with legendary music industry executive Clive Davis, chairman of BMG U.S. and RCA Records.

7:02 PM


Oh, Oh. Should Katherine be warned that you will make up sh*t about her now too? - SHE will be your Queen Kelly's competition. :)

It was also pointed out that Kelly and Carrie were at the Country Awards the night before Idol, and Clay still managed to garner more press than they did.

June 06, 2006 7:47 PM  
Blogger Lana28213 said...

What is wrong with these wacko people? Clay and Ruben are friends, Clay and Kelly are friends. All of them are wonderful singers. I have all of Clay's and Kelly's CDs. WTF is wrong with these people? It is so laughable, so time-wasting and really so pitiful that these people don't have anything better to do with their time than defame Clay Aiken and it says a hell of lot more about them that it ever said about Clay.

June 06, 2006 8:04 PM  
Anonymous Love said...

It says volumes about the content of a person's soul when they can look at someone like Clay Aiken - who does SO MUCH for others when he really doesn't have to - and everything that person has to say about him is bitter and vile and contemptuous. It's like they project all these horrible things that are inside themselves onto Clay. It's so ridiculous. Do they actually think anyone believes them? Anyone at all?

All of this because . . .what? Some of Clay's fans called radio stations and requested his song? Because we bought more than one copy of his cd? Is that really all it took to generate such hate in these people?

June 06, 2006 10:18 PM  
Blogger rtm said...

Birds of a feather stick together and it's never so obvious as when you see all their venom in the same place at the same time. You know what, when you see it all in one place like this is so painfully obvious just how completely opposite Clay is to the crap they are spewing. It's truly sad to be so jaded as to be afraid of common good and decency in this world.

June 06, 2006 10:29 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Truth is my heroine for having the guts to start unloading on the players in this game. It's one thing to see exposure in bits and pieces scattered on different sites but to see it in one spot is like seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I would love to see it keep going here simply because of the name of this blog. I would love to see Morgan unload her bomb and then the big bomb on who/where the VPB screen name traces back to ...which definitely wasn't Clay's PC.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd love an all out blitz of the truth.

June 07, 2006 8:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"O Beware of jealousy!
Tis the green-eyed monster
that doth mock the meat it feeds on."
~~~~~~ Shakespere, Othello

June 07, 2006 10:44 AM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Thanks oh crap. If there is one thing I cannot abide, it's liars. The best part was I didn't have to say a word. Their own words spoke volumes.

My friend pointed out to me the contrast between this blog and the Heart Prints blog. It wasn't planned that way but it certainly does illustrate the difference between good and evil.

I sometimes feel these blogs are writing themselves. I didn't wake up yesterday morning planning on writing this. It just happened. The same goes for the previous blog. Even after I wrote this one, I hesitated to post it thinking maybe I should wait till today. Thinking about it now, I realize that yesterday was 6/6/06 - what a perfect day to unmask evil.

Oh, by the way - our gnat had no comment.

June 07, 2006 11:22 AM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

I hope we get to hear the truth and watch stalkerboy and minions swing by their bit parts!!!!

June 07, 2006 7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll just word all the above and thanks to TR for the getting this out there.

June 07, 2006 9:08 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

The connection between Clay and David Foster seems to be upsetting the supposed insider quite a bit.

Good reason - David Foster has been nominated for 42 Grammies and has won 14. A man that talented would certainly know talent when he sees it.

David Foster distributes through Warner Music. Warner Music is one of the suiters interested in the autioning off of BMG Music Publishing according to Billboard. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

June 08, 2006 9:05 AM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

autioning = auctioning

June 08, 2006 9:13 AM  
Anonymous Love said...

"I would love to see Morgan unload her bomb and then the big bomb on who/where the VPB screen name traces back to ...which definitely wasn't Clay's PC."

There's BOMBS? Oh goodie! I will definitely be checking in here every day, waiting for those bombs. I KNEW someone in Clay's fan arsenal would be able to get to the bottom of that VPB nonsense. The TRUTH always RULES!

June 08, 2006 9:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are six things which the LORD hates,
seven which are an abomination to him:
haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,
a false witness who breathes out lies, and a man who sows discord among brothers.
(Proverbs 6:16-19)

June 08, 2006 1:24 PM  
Blogger Wyatt said...

James Shepherd published “Anatomy of an Idol Smear Campaign” at BOI on 03/30/06.
There was the usual knockdown drag-out on the ensuing rant room thread between James, fell4clay2, and claytango, et al on the one side, and clawme, emach1313, love4mypets, et al on the other. This went on for six pages, escalating to the point emach was posting with multiple identities, including MotherLove2, when this was posted.

Quote:

2fat4theplane
Member
Posts: 1
(4/2/06 5:51 pm)
Re: Anatomy of an Idol Smear Campaign
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Now now Motherlove. I come to you with love and peace and much appreciation for your attempt over the past years to hold me up to be successful and famous.
It is the way that you went about it that I cannot approve of. Clay deserved to be more successful and popular than me. He is the best voice of all the AI contestants ever. We know that. He has loyal fans who are well organized. He is a chick magnet. The women do love him. He has worked hard while I allowed myself to go and became 2fat4theplane, hence damaging my name and career. You also contributed to the demise of my career. I know you meant well. It just backfired on us.
I am resigned to know I'll live a simple life and not be as successful and popular as Clay.
I have no hard feelings toward the dude man. Please stop bashing my buddy. You are a bad reflection on me as one of my supporters when you bash my man. It is an embarrassment to me.
I hestitate to be too stern for fear of losing you as a fan, but just let me say stop it!! I can't have fans who work to undermine the careers of those who are more successful than me. I don't want that. I know that Clay got the most votes. You must assept that.
Use your energy for something constructive like supporting Clay not bashing him. I am a Clay fan too. I just had to say this.


Guess who?


Unquote.
That seemed to kill the party; the fight died out on that page. If this was a poser, it was a very accomplished one. Speech patterns, down to the misspelling of certain words as pronounced by a particular AI winner, were dead on.

June 10, 2006 2:32 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Ahhhhh! I remember this well.

May 04, 2008 2:17 AM  

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