Truth Rules

A blog for fans of Clay Aiken. It may take a while but in the end, truth will win out over lies. Keep it clean, no threats ... and if I don't like what you say I own the delete key.

Saturday, June 24, 2006

Threats

I'd like to thank whoever the anonymous person was who tried posting the following threats. You gave me another subject to write about.

Posted by Anonymous to Truth Rules at 6/24/2006 01:16:07 AM "Close down your blog."

Posted by Anonymous to Truth Rules at 6/24/2006 01:38:09 AM "Knock! Knock! Who's there? The sistahs! The sistahs who? The sistahs who are comin' afta you. Soul Patrol. Soul Patrol. Soul Patrol. "

Posted by Anonymous to Truth Rules at 6/24/2006 01:42:31 AM "You don't know who we are do you? JP and his band of losers are the least of your problem bitch. "

Posted by Anonymous to Truth Rules at 6/24/2006 01:52:37 AM "Is your mind racing and the brain churning? Ya boi is goin this time. Ain't gonna be like the last time. You and your peeps thinkin this is goin down likes it did in 2 zero zero 3 you is wrong beotch. We is springin this time. Word up. Ain't no fly on my bye bye. Gets it? Ya feelin me? Ya boi be needin to watch his azz aiight? Straight up. "

There have been quite a few threats meant to intimidate thrown out there this week. Both the written and verbal kind. Written on blogs and verbal by making phone calls. Well guess what. It's not working. We're not scared and we won't be intimidated. So fire away. Sooner or later you'll run out of ammunition.

There is some very good reading at Anatomy of a Smear Campaign. Be sure to read The Business & Psychology of Cyberstalking.

36 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are these people talking about? English, please? I think I understand that they didn't succeed in 2003 with destroying Clay but they are going to do it now.

Not to start anything but Soul Patrol...doesn't that have something to do with Taylor???

Someone should tell them that threats are only effective if the people you are threatening can understand what your threat is?

Why aren't the soul sistahs supporting Ruben? He could really use it!!

June 24, 2006 8:45 AM  
Anonymous Love said...

I highly doubt those were posted by any of the "Soul Sistahs." The posts sound like they came from some silly high school dropout who maybe wants to give the impression they're a Ruben fan. Hmmm. Who would have a motive for trying to keep the crap stirred up between Clay's fans and Ruben's fans? Ahhh, who really cares anymore? This crap is so old and tiresome already.

I'm sure you're just shakin' in yer shoes, huh, Truth? *Yawn*

June 24, 2006 9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the sistahs:

"It's Not Easy Bein' Green" (lyrics by Joe Rapposo)

It's not that easy bein' green;
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves.
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold-
or something much more colorful like that.

It's not easy bein' green.
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things.
And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water- or stars in the sky."

June 24, 2006 9:43 AM  
Anonymous Scorpio said...

I think a certain grouchy person wants to deflect blame to Ruben fans. Ain't buying it.

June 24, 2006 10:36 AM  
Anonymous Phantom said...

Yep, Groucho has been playin that game since 03. Too bad the sistahs didn't catch on.

June 24, 2006 11:00 AM  
Anonymous AfAmClay Fan said...

Those threads sound, to me anyway, like someone trying to sound like they're black, but really aren't.

Obviously it's a transparent attempt to get some Clay fan to post something that can be labeled as racist and then used as an example of Claymate hate all over cyberspace.

June 24, 2006 11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody wake me up when this is over.....yawn.........

LANA
FOC

June 24, 2006 12:00 PM  
Anonymous redbird said...

It sounded like a script from a bad movie . Made me giggle .

June 24, 2006 1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a way it is too bad that the general public don't know what's been going here. I'm sure one day someone will write a great book, you know when CA is an icon. I only hope I'll be around to read it.

June 24, 2006 2:07 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

I have a suggestion for the Taylor Hicks fan who keeps spamming here. Go start your own blog about Taylor and leave us alone.

June 24, 2006 3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wondered when someone would try and start a war beween the Claymates and The Soul Patrol.

Sounds like they are at it again,same old M.O.
How many times have the anti fans tried this crap with another fanbase??

June 24, 2006 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what I think is so freaking funny, Johhny boy claims he has an insider with RCA, who sends him kick notes...he was told Clay's new album was to be announced June 20th, the same day he had this story planned to break. He sent the email to have his apology hit the internet to over shadow Clay's album news, and it didn't happen. That's why he is like a wild cat right now he is so pissed off....LMFAO

Posted by: Ewwwww | June 24, 2006 01:42 PM



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June 24, 2006 5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To jp, bm, ph, ml, et al - when will you realize that we love Clay Aiken and we do not buy into your ramblings? Personally, I wish you much success in whatever your dealings are as long as you leave Clay out of the equation.

To the Soul Sistahs - if you would support Ruben with the same intensity with which you have been 'supporting' Clay these last three years, Ruben would be even more successful than he is. Can you not see that?

To groucho Rick and all of his clan - Clay is no threat to Kelly, never has been, never will be; they play to totally different audiences. Your energies would be better spent truly enjoying her success than in trying to deny him (and us)his.

To Taylor's fans and the fans of any other Idol's who may find their way to this blog - please don't be taken in by the posers and the detractors out there in cyberspace who try to incite 'warfare' between the fan bases.

There is enough love and support and fun to go around for everyone.

We love Clay, yes, that's what fans do. But we also acknowledge that there is room in the music business for ALL of the other Idols and other favorites.

Please, everyone, just support, love, and enjoy your favorite ones and let us continue to support, love, and enjoy ours.

Peace.......a Clay fan always and forever.

June 24, 2006 6:13 PM  
Anonymous emach1300 said...

I guess it makes sense someone would use some type of stereotyped lingo and make a few references to 2003 so that you all jump to the expected conclusion, but once again you are wrong. If you all think The "sistahs" are behind ANY of all this defecating matter It's futile to deny it because there's not one word I may utter to deny it that you will believe and I accept that. Just keep it up. Blame me/us all you want. Keep bringing up material that is three years old and promoting your agenda. More power to y'all. There's nothng more relaxing and peaceful than a clear conscience. It's tiredsome to see people insisting on blaming us for all the wrongs in Clayland, but if they didn't, how would they explain so many other people coming out of their own fandom and speaking agaist them? Noooo, it has to be a "jealous" Ruben fan. Sure, sure, HAS TO BE. Listen ladies, do what you think is best and what brings you peace. If blaming me brings you joy, what can I do? I've always believed that the more people bear false witness, the more blessings go toward that person their doing it against. I think I have received a lot of those especially this past how long? 5, 6 months? I want to thank you for that. I do have a whole lot more important things to tend to and sitting on my ass trying to dig "stuff" on people to justify my paranoia is not one of them.

As I told a high ranking Claymate recently, I don't really care who is behind all this or backing you up because my conscience is quite clear. What happened three years ago is called "the past" and since you said there were no consequences from it, I still fail to see the relevance now. Threats are not something I care for because as I said, I'm clean of all charges about this crap going on. Do I have an opinion? OF course! and is the same one I've had for 3 years so nothing new there. You love to throw the word defamation, libel, stalking, harrassment around and I wonder what will the false accussations flying around about me will fall under? Because when "EVERYTHING" you said comes out, that will be the day of reckoning of sorts and I will look forward to the "proof" you have that I had ANYTHING to do with all this "actions" that's been tagged to my name or the sistahs. For all it's worth, I DON'T know Groucho, never have, never will so keep that one up too because again, more blessings will come my way. Thank you and no I won't give this any more attention than I have given to it already. As I said, do your "thang", but use your brains whenever you see posts like that idiot's trying to "talk black" (is there's such a thing anyway?). The only concern the sistahs have at this time is being able to meet at the next Ruben concert in Georgia next month, other than that, we're watching a falling dominoes race on ESPN. Have a blessed evening.

June 24, 2006 10:24 PM  
Blogger nzclaynz said...

Oh puleeze, how juvenile. Am I back in high school or somethin'?

Nope, don't appreciate anyone coming here trying to incite fan wars. Get this straight: WE'VE HAD ENOUGH. Clay fans; I don't think this is anything to do with any of those fan bases, I will not be fooled into thinking this is the Soul Sistahs, or the Soul Patrol. It's possible it's a couple of Kelly's fans, I guess. But Emach is not stupid enough for this.

Rick, Clarus - whoever. Cut it out, 'kay. This ploy ain't gonna work either. Some of us actually like Ruben, Kelly and Taylor. Get a clue and realise for once that we are not stupid. What'samatter? Doesn't John want to play today?

June 24, 2006 10:39 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Emach, since you post on Survivor Sucks with Groucho all the time I find it difficult to believe you don't "know" him.

As for the threat I quoted, not many of us bought into thinking you posted that. It's obivious thought that someone is trying to cause trouble.

Could it be that the same people trying to make us look crazy, bigoted and homophobic are using your past history to make it look like you and your friends are involved in this latest smear?

June 24, 2006 10:46 PM  
Anonymous emach1300 said...

Truth-Rules, of course I know OF Groucho and we have posted in the same forum. By "knowing" I implied personally because according to some of you I'm in cahoots with him and paid John Paulus for all this drama. That's the "knowing" I refer to.

June 24, 2006 11:00 PM  
Blogger Kallie1016 said...

Ya know...I believe you Emach...I do.

And I am with you...we need to let the past be the past...

I think most of us will agree that we should be about supporting our own Idol and not trying to tear down anyone else's....

There is plenty of room for all of the idols and thier fans...Clay has said it himself, it's not a competition.

I for one am willing to forgive and move on.

I don't know who is behind this latest crap...except for Paulus...and if he is the con man I think he is, he didn't need any help. I think it is possible that some disgruntled Clay fans may be supplying him with information and agreeing with him

Everyone doesn't have to love Clay Aiken, you don't have to buy his music or attend his concerts if you don't want to...but those of us who do love him and support him by buying CD's and going to concerts should not be maligned for that.

Why should all of us be lumped together as homophobes and racists? Yes I will admit that some of the stuff being posted by so-called Clay fans is pathetic, but I am not responsible for the actions of anonymous posters on blogs and message boards. I can only be responsible for my own thoughts and actions.

and my conscience is also clear here....

I blame only John Paulus for this mess...He is the one we should be going after.

June 24, 2006 11:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emach, glad to read you all are looking forward to seeing Ruben in Atlanta.

Just like we are looking forward to seeing Clay when he appears next, wherever it may be.

I hope Ruben's show is lots of fun for all of you and that you have a great time. And I hope his new CD is successful - I really mean that. I happen to like Rube. I just also happen to LOVE Clay, is that so wrong?

I never understood this fanwars thing - was not around on the internet in 2003 - and have just been 'indoctrinated' into all this stuff since jp came on the scene.

I really feel that Clay and Ruben are friends, just as Clay and Kelly are friends. I just wish that the fans could get along with each other the way our Idols get along with each other.

The fact that these 'wars' exist really makes me feel sad. I hope you know that we're just trying to stick up for our guy and that we really just want to be able to enjoy his succes and that we are not diminishing the succes of Ruben, Kelly, and all the others.

What's even sadder at this point is if it's one or two or three people (whomever they may be) trying to open up old wounds and looking to put the blame where it does not belong.

Anyway......

Peace..........A Clay fan always and forever

June 24, 2006 11:39 PM  
Blogger nzclaynz said...

Emach - thank you for coming here and posting. From the posts I see here, it would seem only one thought you might have had something to do with this.

I do believe what you say, and I said I didn't believe it was you in my earlier post. Yes, there has been bad stuff between our fanbases; and on both sides too. I was never involved in it for a number of reasons. First, it's a waste of energy. Second, I happen to like Ruben too. Third, I always believed that Clay and Ruben were friends.

Nope, there's someone else at work here and they're stupid enough that they think we'll fall for it. Ain't gonna happen.

June 25, 2006 12:46 AM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

A note to who ever is spamming. You are wasting your time.

June 25, 2006 7:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course JP started this whole mess, but that aside, I blame the media for creating some of the fan competition (or wars as some say). They constantly post polls and articles about the idols comparing them and challenging the fans to vote for this or that concerning the idols--they keep the competition going.

Most people with any brain at all realize that the idols pretty much compete in different genre's, not against each other, but with the rest of the music world. There is room for all of them and many of us support more than one of them. Why they keep making these polls and comparing their accomplishments to each other instead of within the real music world is beyond me. Maybe it's because the fans of the various idols unite to support the one they love most.

I'm sure it is gratifying to see your idol, whether it be Clay, Taylor, Kelly, Ruben, Fantasia--winning at some poll. But we need to remember, what is the real reason behind these polls? Fans of all idols everywhere should just unite and refuse to participate.

June 25, 2006 7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emach,

the lyrics posted on June 24, 2006 10:43 AM were posted by me, and I apologize.

It was as silly as the juvenile threats that were made, and the only excuse I have is that I reacted out of a months' long frustration that the fanwars and their participants might be associated with the mentally ill stalker Clay and we as fans are having to deal with.

I'm all for letting the past be the past. I like Ruben too, but tell him to produce some Lutheresque songs, so I can buy his CD too. I'm not much into rapping at my age, you know? ;)

June 25, 2006 9:03 AM  
Blogger Galiano said...

don't let them get to you. There are a few that have been attacking a girl I know too. I gave myself a name specifially to fight for her. Sounds like you have lots of support here. Take care.

June 25, 2006 10:43 AM  
Anonymous Polly Graf said...

Emach, are you still hanging around? Would you like to explain why?

You have made more goodbye-farewell speeches than Cher and Streisand put together, yet you still show up in the strangest places. It's really confusing.

You're more than welcome, I just think it's rather odd for someone who says they're not involved at all.

June 25, 2006 1:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Soul Patrol post is screaming fake but that does not exclude anyone's fanbase from prior involvement in this mess. There are many parties. Some may have retired by now.

June 25, 2006 2:00 PM  
Blogger Emach1300 said...

Once again Poly Graf I fall for your baits but I'll tell you why I'm here; because the likes of YOU keep putting out lies out there about people and swearing up and down it's gospel truth and making up "evidence" to justify your paranoia. I, unlike other people, will not sit idly and let anyone keep putting out lies based on OLD, MOLDED, PAST events. Yes, I have stepped away from this computer several times, only to find bigger lies about me and assuring they are true. This time you people have gone overboard, but as I said in my post, it's all good. I want to thank you for that blessing.

Unlike a lot of you, I have owned up to my/our actions of THREE YEAR'S AGO which is known as THE PAST. I still stand by the fact what we did was not based on lies, inuendos, false accusations or harrassment. It was the act of showing the "behind the scenes" workings of a fan base hell bent on righting what they perceived as a wrong regardless of who was in their way. It wasn't my writings but yours, at least own up to that and accept you were wrong. Do you have the right to like whoever you want to? but of course! what you have is no right to deliberately set out to demean, belittle and put down and do everything in your power to drown other idols that have worked just as hard as Clay to get there. If you can't see that (sorry guys, I know some of you do) then you fall under the category you have earned the right to belong to.

For three years you have used the same lame excuse (the sistahs) to fill your agenda. Of course it gives you an excuse to find fault for anything you deem negative. Again, knock yourselves out, I sleep very well at night and I don't have to desperately hit the computer to dig up dirt on any of you and God knows I have every reason to do just that! Contrary to popular believe, and as much as I may despise SOME of you rabid ones, I don't play that low-down, dirty game, but for some of you it's a way of life and a way to handle "things". Go at it if it makes you whole. If you feel you hold some type of entitlement that allows you to operate that way on Clay's behalf, It's sad, but it's the way you choose to live and that's your problem, but don't think for a minute that just because we choose to ignore you, that we will allow you to continue to blatantly lie to earn browny points with Clay, his mom or his team. I have a lot of opinions and have no problem expressing them. If you think I have no right to do so, do your "thang" as I said and handle it. I repeat, I'm looking forward to your irrefutable "evidence" which based on your assumptions, the fact we busted you little game THREE YEARS AGO makes us automatically guilty of whatever irrational accusation you want to throw out at us. You said "it's rather odd for someone who says they're not involved at all" for me to try to correct you and I say just the opposite, if I stay quiet and let your imagination run wild I will be indirectly admitting guilt and I refuse to admit guilt to what I HAVE NO FREAKING PART OF! If you want to say I'm guilty of posting what YOU consider vile/nasty things like still believing Clay is gay and is deceiving his fans, well Your Honor, GUILTY as charged! Thank God for the First Amendment. If you insist on some idiotic conspiracy theory that somehow I'm involved with Groucho and John Paulus in the outing of Clay, you better have some DAMN good clear, hard, no doubt about it evidence to back it up, and no I don't mean in the fan forums. You claim you're sick of all this? well, I'm 1,000,000Xs more!.
I assure you, you stop mixing me up in the drama, you will not see me again. Damn I'm trying, but if I left, who will you blame then? Oh Yeah, your new scapegoat Woodle. Boy are you grasping. Bye Poly, please leave me the hell alone, Is that too much to ask?

June 25, 2006 4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we are supposed to let bygones be bygones and if the JP's of the world will ruin themselves, what was the purpose of this blog? Why dig up this three year old sistah stuff? I mean come on now, I just don't see the connection. I mean mostly everyone here could see that the threat crap was a hoax, why publish it? I say you benefit from keeping this nonsense going.

June 25, 2006 8:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a hard time believing anything Emach says.She has just told too many lies. She still thinks putting Clay Aiken's picture in a gun site and putting it up on the Soulful Board as a Banner was ok. Still thinks LYING to Critics, DJs, and program directors was ok, still thinks taking posts off boards and "rearranging" them to say what she wants is ok. Still trying to justify her Clay hating after all this time. She claims it was Clay fans she went after, but it was Clay she and her cohorts went after and did their dammest to destroy. Emach has NEVER said she wouldn't do it again or that she regrets what she and her Sistahs did. Sorry, I'm just not buying!

June 28, 2006 4:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are probably from Groucho and his ugly friends.

June 28, 2006 5:50 PM  
Blogger Emach1300 said...

Anonymous at 5:10PM (Jun28)
I don't need YOU to believe me because see? I know the truth and it's not the spinerama type you always use. Do you know why you have never heard me say I regret what was done? Because I don't. Satisfied? Would I do it again? It depends on the circumstance. Actually I would do it to ANYONE who acts unfairly and unkindly to others, humans or animals; just like the time I ratted on my neighbor who's dog was chained to a tree, never fed or sheltered, was nothing but bones because he almost had no skin but a paper thin layer covering them. I called the Humane Society on them and I was VERY proud of that.

Ae you sure we lied? are you really sure? You may have brainwashed yourselves into believing that, but why has not one Claymutt EVER addressed the posts sent to the DJs, Magazine editors or radio programmers with YOUR OWN written words scheming, plotting and planning, sending your hate-filled emails to them? Why has noone ever addressed that? Even the words you use against me are not even read correctly. It clearly instructed the sistahs to "MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE THEIR POSTS WITH OUR EMAILS!" because we knew you would deny, deny, deny. Just like you screencap and copy, copy, copy, we did the same. Why don't you address those hate-filled emails YOU wrote and that we used? I pride in that fact and no matter how much you claim we changed anything written (how convenient huh?)we KNOW we didn't, but as usual your m.o. is to deny it to death, but it's all good. And for the life of me, why on earth are you STILL dragging that OLD stuff THREE YEARS LATER? WHY? WHY? WHY? I'll tell you why, because you want to justify your craziness and obssession and you want to make people think you are all saintly and victims which you are not and you want to find a scapegoat and who better than emach and her sistahs whom "we know owned up to their actions (which we can't do)".

We try to ignore you and the minute some asswipe comes up with some crap, there you go, "That was emach and the sistahs are right behind her", when in reality you know jackshit. What proof do I have? The fact I KNOW I am NOT the one behind everything you claim I do and as I told many of you already, I'm looking sooooooo forward to your proof of me doing whatever you say I am doing? I reiterate, you better have some hard core, irrefutable, crystal clear, no doubt about it EVIDENCE I did what you claimed, or that I am in cahoots with whoever you say I am and I don't mean someone told me, or I read this that or the other kind of crap, you bring it okay? As I have said too many times to count, I have said a LOT of things, a LOT and I did send emails to EXPOSE the actions of the mates, but nothig else and again, you just have to present that proof and as I also said it won't be the forums you will have to convince. I think I need a vacation and I would like to visit the Pacific again, I haven't been to Singapore yet or maybe take that safari trip to Africa. The possibilities are endless.


So anonymous at 5:10, I don't want you to buy anything I sell. I'm not interested in your patronage. Those who matter believe me and the one above especially, KNOWS I'm telling the truth; what y'all choose to believe it's YOUR problem, my conscience is VERY clean. Good night. BTW it's 2006 in case you haven't noticed. *wink*

June 28, 2006 11:25 PM  
Anonymous emach1300 said...

Sorry, I didn't address this:
She still thinks putting Clay Aiken's picture in a gun site
Are you out of your freaking mind? Who did that? The things you guys say and do to make us look evil is astounding. Thanks for bearing false witness AGAIN on me/us. Diiing! what was that? Oh yeah, another blessing bestowed upon me. Keep it up. God Bless.

June 29, 2006 12:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the photo referred to:

http://www.beaversonidol.com/picarts/sniperheader.jpg

That was on this board:

The name of the board is "Soulful Ruben Studdard." Upon entering it, one would expect to find a smiling graphic of Ruben. Instead, this is what you see:

[Editor's note: You can see this graphic image by clicking here. Please be warned that it is very shocking and I do not advise people to view it, however, it is your own choice.]

http://www.beaversonidol.com/articles/deceptionofafan.html

If you search a bit further there are copies of the posts that were made.

June 29, 2006 8:09 AM  
Blogger Emach1300 said...

Don't know if it went through, but here it is again...

Please be warned that it is very shocking and I do not advise people to view it, however, it is your own choice

OOOHHH DRAAAAMA!!!!
The banner was explained AD NAUSEAM, but as a typical mutt reaction you spin, twist, spin again and once again you choose to ignore what's obvious (read the title). But nevermind this is the Claymutts we're talking about so hype it up, drama it up spin it, twist it, spin it again. It was nothing but a banner with no ulterior motive, A. J.O.K.E. but it was VERY convenient for you to twist it, but again, expected dramatic behavior on your part. Get over it. The EFF BEE EYE laughed at the pettiness of it all, yes we called before you did. They were busy trying to catch Osama, so WE DON'T CARE what you think. WE KNOW the true meaning behind it, it's not what you made it out to be, so knock yourselves out with that THREE YEAR OLD joke for the Bolt Babes, friends of "Sniper". Nice try anonymous. At least I put my name out there and DON'T hide behind a monitor ala "The Wizard of OZ" or maybe should I make it the "Clizard of ClOZ", right? a.n.o.n.y.m.o.u.s.?

God Bless You and I really mean that. It's all good, as I said, CLEAR conscience, CLEAR. Can you say the same about YOUR underhanded actions? As I said, GOD Bless Y'ALL.

June 29, 2006 11:56 AM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

This is sounding an awful lot like the rhetoric coming from stalker boy's blog.

A word of advice, silence is golden.

June 29, 2006 12:42 PM  
Blogger Emach1300 said...

Truth, you know what? you are soooo right, but it's not rethoric and I wouldn't expect you to call it any other way. Again, have it your way, it's your blog and I respect your right to make your mind about me.
Silence is golden indeed and I will follow your message. I look forward to the day the truth smacks everyone in their faces and it won't be mine.
Have a blessed day. Just know that GOD KNOWS!

"It is also written in your law, that the testimny of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me" John 8:17-18

...as I said GOD KNOWS, who cares what YOU think?

June 29, 2006 1:36 PM  

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