Truth Rules

A blog for fans of Clay Aiken. It may take a while but in the end, truth will win out over lies. Keep it clean, no threats ... and if I don't like what you say I own the delete key.

Thursday, May 04, 2006

North Carolina § 14‑196; § 14‑196.3

State Computer Harassment or "Cyberstalking" Laws

SBI Sees Growing Number Of Cyberstalking Cases

On January 5, 2006 President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity. Sec. 113, Preventing Cyberstalking, was included in Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act and rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet to post annoying web messages or send annoying emails without disclosing your true identity. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.

Sounds like some of stalker boy's "Anonymous" minions are breaking a Federal law.

Googling Cyber stalking, Cyber bullying and Cyber harassment turns up some very interesting reading material.

WARNING!!! The purple pickle struck again and got his hands on the "Friends of Clay" blog. There is no limit to how low, desperate, and despicable this sorry excuse for a man will go in his efforts to destroy someone's good name. This time it's Adam and Leon.

68 Comments:

Blogger yeahthat said...

Wow, very interesting.

Gonna have to read up on this.

May 04, 2006 5:38 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

From Cyberbullying on the Internet. I think Groucho and friends are trying to tell us something:

"The sixth rule is become an observer. Although you may be the target of the cyberbully's anger, you can train yourself to act as an observer. This takes you out of the firing line and enables you to study the perpetrator and collect evidence. When people use bullying behaviours they project their own weaknesses, failings and shortcomings on to others. In other words, they are telling you about themselves by fabricating an accusation based on something they themselves have done wrong. Whenever you receive a flame mail or hate mail, train yourself to instinctively ask the question, 'What is this person revealing about themselves this time?'"

May 04, 2006 5:59 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Whenever I read his diatribes against the Claymates, I have to wonder how he treats his mother, his wife, and daughter(s).

May 04, 2006 6:03 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

They talk about the Jekyll and Hyde syndrome in there too. That's probably what he is like .. all of them.

May 04, 2006 6:53 PM  
Blogger Xmas Tour said...

okay someone want to tell me what happen to Friends Of Clay? I haven't been on all evening went to see what was going on and it's gone?????

May 04, 2006 8:12 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

I think they're updating and will be back...that's kind of what I read when I was last over there. Something about digging deeper in.

I hope I can figure out how to find them again.

May 04, 2006 8:13 PM  
Blogger Xmas Tour said...

me too, me too...nothing like coming home after a crappy day and work, and read Adam's and Leon's humor, I adore the guys...

May 04, 2006 8:20 PM  
Blogger Xmas Tour said...

yeahthat did you see the new post about the IM's at we supportclay?

May 04, 2006 8:22 PM  
Anonymous FOC said...

Changes are coming……….

Adam and Leon (plus two) are going underground. They have decided it’s much more fun to talk about people behind their backs! They also want to interact with you fine ladies a little more (that’s got Leon all kinds of excited) So a new location and format is in the works. We will really have some fun in a controlled environment. And as always, anyone can read, but only Friends of Clay will be allowed to post.

Adam and Leon aren’t going away. Hell, they're digging in deeper. They are still dedicated to what got them here in the first place; speaking out against an injustice to an honest, decent, and charitable guy…one Clay Aiken.

So be patience, those madcap loveable scamps you’ve grown to love will be back quicker than a speeding Clay Aiken thong!!!! Soon we’ll all be singing …”The Boys Are Back In Town”

May 04, 2006 8:39 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Yeah, I saw the IM stuff. The person doing all of that digging really knows her stuff.

It's like a mystery novel...can't wait to read the ending!!! ;)

May 04, 2006 9:07 PM  
Blogger Canucker said...

Adam, Leon - how will we find you? It is a big, big cyberworld out there.

We miss you already. You and your camel buddy were a great team.

Oh and Leon was pretty neat too.

May 04, 2006 9:38 PM  
Blogger TEAM F.O.C. said...

We're working on it...We'll tell you when and where and you can spread the word.

Thanks

Adam and LEON

May 04, 2006 10:03 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Thanks guys.

May 04, 2006 10:14 PM  
Blogger rosepetals said...

Missing Adam and Leon! Send the map soon.

May 04, 2006 11:31 PM  
Blogger Canucker said...

Craig Ferguson = NOT COOL

We'll leave it at that.

:-(

May 05, 2006 12:03 AM  
Blogger bavarianstar said...

I am missing you guys already! Don't stay away to long O.K.?

May 05, 2006 12:05 AM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

I have no idea who Craig Ferguson is????

May 05, 2006 12:08 AM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Anybody clicked on the FOC site? It appears it has been hacked by asshole himself.

May 05, 2006 6:34 AM  
Blogger casey said...

Yeah I did. Scary. Had to clean out my computer.

May 05, 2006 6:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I need to bring out the Lysol and disinfect mine too!

May 05, 2006 7:42 AM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Just more proof that attention seekers will do anything no matter how despicable.

Well guess what, the door on this blog just got slammed in his face.

Adam and Leon will let us know where we can find them. Meantime "Friends of Clay" has been taken over by the "Enemies of Clay".

May 05, 2006 8:48 AM  
Blogger Linda said...

Can't wait to see what Adam and Leon have up their collective sleeves this time.

Please post as soon as you hear from either of them as to where to head next.

May 05, 2006 9:38 AM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Wow! Unbelievable! And that's all I'm going to say at this time.

May 05, 2006 10:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adam left it open for him to "take over".....Paulus even admits he hacked it by saying "Never underestimate the tenacity of a green beret"....don't you think he incrimidated himself?

Adam and LEON ----AREN'T GOING AWAY. They will see it to the end. Just like Jake and Elwood they are on a mission from God!!!! LOL

Paulus hides behind a keyboard funded by his sugar daddy. But as we know in life, nothing last forever.

May 05, 2006 10:59 AM  
Anonymous Scorpio said...

Fans of Clay, check here:

http://whowillstandforclay.blogspot.com/

May 05, 2006 1:08 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

I guess emach posted her farewell speech at the Sucks board. Perhaps she knows that if JP goes down, she goes with and is getting the hell out of dodge.

Of course, she didn't take any credit for all the hatred...but then...why would she.

May 05, 2006 1:49 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Rats deserting a sinking ship.

May 05, 2006 1:58 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Eventually the truth always comes out.

ILovegreeneyes says:

"emach, make no mistake I take PRIDE in being associated with you and anyone who continues to speak up and out against the Claymates."

"You, me and Groucho....we're a regular force of nature....working tirelessly to ruin and destroy Clay and Claynation."

May 05, 2006 2:13 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Have you seen the latest at the WSCA blog? Very interesting.

I don't know who is behind that blog but they are far more technically adept than I could ever claim to be!

May 05, 2006 2:13 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Truth, was that posted at Sucks? Sheesh...what a bunch of idiots.

May 05, 2006 2:20 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Truth, I hope you got a screen shot of you know who saying they were a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully the reckoning will come soon.

May 05, 2006 2:21 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Yes it was. I'm expecting that once they find out it's copied here they won't like it much.

I have a feeling my delete function is going to get a workout.

May 05, 2006 2:24 PM  
Blogger Canucker said...

Hi everyone - it is a beautiful day up here in Canada. After a long winter, spring is here. The sun is shining and life is good. Hope things are as good your neck of the woods. :-)

oh crap, you asked who Craig Ferguson is. One of the late night talk show hosts. He comes on after David Letterman up here.

Happened to have the TV on last night and Ferguson did a Clay skit, with a guy supposed to be Clay talking about AI 5. Usual stuff that they all love to go with, Clay with gay mannerisms, saying he'd "Do Katherine McPhee. Do her hair, do her makeup, blah blah blah".

It is all getting so old, you know.

Anyway, to heck with them all. I'm a Clay Aiken fan and a big :=P~~~~~ to the naysayers.

May 05, 2006 3:12 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Wonder how long it's going to be before Groucho turns tail? I knew they'd do their thing and try to leave JP holding the bag. Wassername didn't even give JP his due credit; wasn't he part of the "team"? Oh that's right, he was just the flunky (or is that the f**kee).

May 05, 2006 3:14 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

http://www.adamandleon.blogspot.com/

May 05, 2006 3:16 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Yeahthat, I have never been to SS but would really love to see Emach's buh bye. Guess it's the closure thing. Is there a link? If you don't want to muddy these pages, I certainly understand.

May 05, 2006 3:52 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

You don't want to go over there, trust me.

I have the post but not sure if truth wants it posted.

I'll wait to see what she says.

May 05, 2006 3:58 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Fair enough, thanks.

May 05, 2006 3:59 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Go ahead and post it.

May 05, 2006 4:02 PM  
Blogger Canucker said...

Well, I would say that asswipe has screwed up big time by publicly admitting he's taken over the Friends of Clay board.

It is listed as one of his blogs now on his profile.

So much for asswipe's lily white intentions.

May 05, 2006 4:05 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

Zodiac sign = sheep.

Yup, he's being led around by ew's with bigger brains than him.

(Notice I didn't say smarter!)

May 05, 2006 4:08 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

Emach's goodbye from Sucks:

It is not coincidential that I would be here today. Couple of hours ago or so I was talking to a REAL Clay fan whom I consider a real friend and whom I have agreed to disagree on many topics (not just Clay) and she told me how my name is being dragged at some Clay's friend blog and how I'm being blamed for a lot of what's going on at John Paulus blog. Unfortunately I can't avoid that. They need a fall guy(s) and I'm going to be one for them for as long as I live. I only want to say one thing, and I could care less whether you believe me or not, truth is I never hid to say that I always believed Clay was gay. I never hid from saying he was a manipulator and that his fans were blindly following a fantasy and I also said from day one that his fans would be the cause of his downfall because the way they decided to promote him. Promoting, loving, following and embracing his art and talent was not a problem. As fans of any artists we do that anyway, but what I found to be a problem was the way the fandom adopted the attitude that nobody else BUT Clay was worth being into the entertainment biz. Whereas it may have been just a rabid fraction of the fandom as a whole or not, they did and said some vile things attacking not only Ruben sites and fans as well as any other artists coming from AI that may have represented a perceived threat to Clay. They undermined, denigraded, belittled and ridiculed others and set out to prove a point. Avenging the "slight" of AI and 19E became a goal. When a little ol'group of Ruben fans set out to show the "best" or "creme of the crop" of the Aiken fandom it was meant to show what they were capable of. It is one thing to support an artist, another to do it with a vindictive heart. We didn't have to go too far to harvest our proof. It was harvested out their own extensive crop of vile threads, racist remarks and thoughts, hateful comments found at THEIR OWN sites and from ours as they would come and "grace" us with their vile. Remember Michael Nozzi from Bolt? The biggest fan ever. The very same one claymates worshipped at Bolt? Well, we unmasked him as the racist poster, who would've "thunk" huh? Like his, many more posts were "harvested" and YES, presented as proof. We did sent a few emails to DJs making them aware of their plans to bombard them with hate mail for "dissing" Clay and ALWAYS sent them WRITTEN proof. We never made up stories. It was DOCUMENTED in black and white (no pun intended) and the same was done with ANY emails sent because we knew we would be accused of making up stuff. Even then, they denied what was obvious. So, they can spin everything they want to. They can deny and paint themselves as martyrs, but those outside their bubble are very aware of who they are. Oh, and sorry but NO! we did NOT call anyone on the phone, NOR did we embarked in a SMEAR campaign. That's YOUR spin. Blame me or my sistahs all you want. I'm not interested in engaging any of your sorry souls anymore. I KNOW what you are capable of and I admit you are one scary bunch whom I want no part of.

Clay is pretty much a non-issue for me at this point. His own actions speak for themselves and HIS OWN FANS are finally seeing the light. It wasn't about being Gay, it was about the lies and the holier-than-thou attitude. Am I glad this is all out in the open now? YES, and thus the reason I don't give a rats ass anymore. As I predicted long time ago his fans finally did him in. I just told my friend the same and I also believe that even when John may have opened a can of worms, it was Clay's fans who made sure the can spilled all over the place when all they had to do was LEAVE.IT.ALONE. They felt it was better to stir the shit up and once it stunk up they cried foul and blame SOMEONE ELSE as usual.

No longer had I spoken to my friend someone else brought to my attention this post here. Shannon or LTGE, you don't have to be ashamed of being associated with me. You don't know me or what I'm about. I just speak my mind just like you do. As much as anyone would like to think I know Groucho, I don't! and my disdain for CERTAIN fraction of Clays fans is not THAT deep as to do or say what he does. I don't even agree with a lot of things he says, but that's HIS right. Now, I despise those who felt the right to infringe in my privacy, THAT is sick, but somehow it is a common practice among that certain group and celebrated by their minions. They feel putting someone in harms way because of their public opinions is justifiable, how sick is that? That's when I decided they are one scary MF'er group and it was better to leave them self-destruct than getting in their way. As evil as you may find me, I would NEVER do that no one, but I WILL speak my mind and my words can be as cutting as the sharpest blade at times.

All I want to say is that I'm tired of this BS. I'm not and have not being, in a looooooooooong time interested in the same BS of THREE years ago. I'm not interested in "exposing" the claymates because that was done already THREE years ago and every turn they take now people KNOW who and how they really are. I don't care for them, Clay or any of this crap. I have enough drama, grief and "stuff" to deal with in REAL time that I don't have any more time for them insane people. As of now my only interest is waitng on Ruben's CD release hopefully in August and that's it. Life itself keeps me busy and I have by far, more serious things to deal with than to be concerned with you people any more. I did wanted to set the record straight (for all it's worth) and to ask you to find another scapegoat. This one is dead and can't carry anyone's blame no more. I was hoping you would realize by now that you DO have more "haters" (as you call those of us who speak the truth you refused to hear) among Clay fans themselves than you care to admit. If anything, John Paulus provided an outlet for those who for so long have been silenced and banned from their own sites for speaking up. Those are the real fans of Clay. They love him, but are not blinded . Now they have a place to speak and I hope they remain anonymous because I shudder just thinking what can
be done to them by the mutts. Sad.

Thanks for the good and bad times. Kelly fans you rock! and much more success to Kelly, she's worked hard and deserves every bit of it. To those Clay fans I have had the pleasure of *gasp* talking to, thanks for the opportunity. To those low-lifes good for nothing bullies and delusional stop at nothing Claymutts much luck in your self-destruction and that of someone who could have been great have you not ruined him in your over-zelousness. I bid my good byes. I'm through with all this crap. It was real and it was fun and damn it! IT WAS real fun!!! I leave you with a phrase from my latest favorite song: "I'm so glad that I'll never fit in
That will never be me
Outcasts and girls with ambition
that's what I want to see" from "Stupid Girls" by Pink

Adios!!! Buh Bye, Sayonara, Adieu, Ciao!!!!!!!!!!!!

May 05, 2006 4:14 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

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May 05, 2006 4:15 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Well, it's all there. See that Rule 6 of "Cyberbullying on the Internet" posted above. She has accused us of doing everything that she did.

Thanks for posting that.

May 05, 2006 4:27 PM  
Blogger Xmas Tour said...

I think someone is starting to beleive the Claymates read this story!!!

Claymates vs. John Paulus: In Defense of Clay Aiken
by Jim Brogan
May 5, 2006

Wow, who would have ever thought I would devote so much time to a subject dealing with ones perceived sexuality. The Post Chronicle has been following this story very closely and we've been monitoring conventional and unconventional sources. Both the Star & the National Enquirer have run stories about Clay Aiken's sexuality and penchant for internet sex.

We have devoted several articles to it and there is a story brewing out there that could be the truth behind the supposed character assassination of Clay Aiken. We have been contacted by no less than two dozen sources that indicate to us that the reported pictures of Clay Aiken standing in front of a webcam are not Clay Aiken.

The one constant is that they all feel John Paulus (If I have to remind you who he is than read something else.) is behind it. A blog called "We Support Clay Aiken" has some interesting reading.

I also have received numerous emails like this one for example:

'I think that Mr. Paulus is a liar, as Clay wasn't even in Raleigh (or even near the area) when the so called sexual encounter occurred. Also, it states that Clay is 26 (or was during that time) when he was actually 27 in late November. Also, the story doesn't add up. Why would a celebrity take such a huge risk with a stranger, a man he met on the internet, without really knowing, and not wear a condom? That just doesn't make sense. Even the drunkiest fraternity brother, still is in tuned with reality, would still wear a condom. Also, it isn't like Clay to use the phrase "hey man". I read the conversations provided by Paulus and even though they can make sense to someone who isn't computer literate, to those who are, you can tell that it was someone on the other end (possibly a friend of Paulus's who believes he/she will gain some kind of compensation for helping him out). The conversations are a simple copy and paste, there are no screenshots. He claims he had a lie detector test, when there are many times they are inaccurate. His source is the national enquirer (which no offense to them, but enough sad) I simply believe this Paulus character attempted to tarnish a celebrity's reputation because he suffers from a rather warped imagination. I think he assumed Clay Aiken is/was gullible (and gay to boot) so he made up the story in efforts of doing so.'

Continue reading this article below

"We Support Clay" backs this up:

'See, it's a funny thing about Messengers. When you type in a certain code, you get an EMOTICON ... When a conversation containing emoticons is saved into Yahoo's chat archives, not only do the codes disappear, but so do the emoticons ... So why do the IMs between revnoles and jonahcruise that were supposedly copied directly from Yahoo archives (without being tampered with or added to) appear.'

Another interesting tidbit surrounds the photo I talked about in the beginning of this article. "We Support Clay" shows an interesting transformation in Photoshop:

'What I've done here is an overlay of Thom's picture on Clay's, starting with 100% visibility on Thom's picture and ending with the picture of "Clay's" on 100% visibility. In between is where the morph happens.

Let your eyes rest on the shadowing of Thom's left cheek....now...take a look at Clay's on the last picture. It's the same.

Proof again that these webcam pictures were totally fabricated, starting with Thom's picture as a template. Bits and pieces of Thom were cut out with Clay's features pasted in, lighting changed, and (bad) shadowing added ... See for yourself.'

I'll admit, that's pretty compelling. So is this tidbit from one of our moles:

'Mr. Paulus states he met Clay Aiken at a Quality Inn on January 2? Perhaps you may want to check into the fact that Clay Aiken was finishing up his concert tour in Florida and then took his entire cast AND his mother and brother to Busch Gardens during that time. Post Chronicle did our bets to check that fact and it would appear to be accurate.

You see, Clay Aiken's fan base even have pictures of Clay IN Florida at Busch Gardens and he had his family with him at the time along with the cast and the young boy and his family who appeared on tour with Clay. Clay took his mother and brother on the remainder of his tour after his Christmas break at home with his family. Now if you need to know the real facts. there isn't a Clay Aiken fan you can't talk to who can't give you details on where Clay is at any given time.

There is a unique event that occurs on the Clay Aiken message boards at every single concert he does and it is called a "cellcert" where fans at the concert call a friend on their cellphone and they post the events on the message boards through the entire concert. I personally know the person who heads up the New England Fan Club and Clay Aiken was NOT staying at the Wyndam while in Boston, so that story was a lie also. (Referring to the story in the Enquirer)

Fans look for Clay's bodyguard, Jerome at the hotels to scope out where he is staying or if he is staying on the bus and for a fact, there were several friends with Clay in Boston and they were staying in a suite at a very upscale hotel.'

So what does all this mean? I'm not quite sure but one thing is for sure, the Claymates sure do stand by their man.

May 05, 2006 4:55 PM  
Anonymous Love said...

HA! That's great, xmas tour.

That just made my day. :)

May 05, 2006 5:27 PM  
Blogger casey said...

This is the post I made on WSCA last night. I think it got lost in all the posts including a very strange one from purple pickle himself.

Quote:

Devil's attorney.....I just spent a short time at DataLounge, found it through google. I have never heard of this place in all this time.

Well, was that an eye opening experience. Finally the answer I have been looking for in all this mess.

I have been asking myself and others for all this time why anyone would do this to another person, and why Clay Aiken in particular. At last this all makes sense to me.

The conclusion I have come to is this:

Their motive was to make Clay their spokesman. They needed a well-loved famous Christian who also happened to be gay. They thought they had found this in Clay. To do this, they first needed to get rid of us, his so-called "old homophobic, women" fans. Which we are not, as we all know.

When Clay (A) turned out not to be gay and (B) would not be the spokesman they had hoped for, they decided to take matters into their own hands, and "out" him.

How am I doing so far?

John was a pawn, and was used to get the story out there. Where they made their mistake, was choosing an idiot with his own agenda.

John P was a loose cannon. He, in embellishing his story, proved it all to be a lie. The more he talked, the more the fans did not believe his story. We refused to run away, and stop supporting Clay.

I have read many posts complaining that if all of Clays "old, fat, homophobic" fans would just go away, he would get a whole new crop
of fans. I think this has been their agenda from the beginning.

Thank you for opening my eyes to who the real culprits are in this.

Please go over and look at this site and see if you come to the same conclusions I have. I'd like to see if you see it the same as I do.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

Casey

End Quote:

http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/english/dish/index.html

This is the first page of this datalounge that I found.

I respect the opinion of everyone here so if I am too out there just tell me. In the mean time I think I will do some more digging.

May 06, 2006 8:43 AM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Gawd!!!!! Casey, is this what a faction of the Gay Community does to people? "Outing" whomever they wish whether the person is gay or not and they do it by creating SCANDAL so that individual will be their spokesperson? How backward thinking is that?

This hurts their own causes. It puts a blotch in the efforts of events like "Broadway Cares", etc. Why should anyone outside the Gay Community help their causes when this is what they do? Groups like this nullify the efforts of the larger faction within the Gay Community who seek understanding and acceptance in every way.

Just blabbering because I can't wrap my mind around this.

May 06, 2006 12:14 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

casey, while your digging look for a printed threat that was made after Clay refused to do an interview for NEXT magazine. I saw it recently but didn't copy it.

If my memory is correct it was under a photograph of Clay and said something about teaching him a lesson.

Right after the Wildcard Show on March 7, 2003 this showed up on Popdirt. It was copied from Filth2Go.

Billy Masters Praises Fox For 'Gay Clay' Idol Treatment
Posted on Monday, March 10 @ 18:38:44 CST by MusicMan


Billy Masters of Filth2go.com weighed in after Clay Aiken was voted on to the show's final 12. "It’s starting – I’m getting American Idol fever," he admitted. "This last week, I sat on the edge of my chair (as I’m sure most of you did), wondering if 'Gay Clay' was gonna make it to the finals. As the judges made their decisions – not for our boy – I got more and more concerned. What I knew, however, was that the contestant who got the most calls from the public was taken out of the pool of talent for the judges to select from. So, would Clay make it? Indeed, he was the public’s choice – and the one person the judges agreed belongs in the finals. And how sweet was it for the folks at FOX to focus in on his 'very special friend', who had tears in his eyes while Clay sang? Brava!"

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In late 2004, Clay refused to do an interview for NEXT magazine. This blurb showed up on Popdirt:

Clay Aiken Won't Do Interviews With Gay Publications
Posted on Wednesday, January 12 @ 21:35:53 CST by MusicMan


'American Idol' season two runner-up Clay Aiken is quick to do interviews, but not with openly gay publications. Next magazine columnist Matt Bell notes in the gay mag's latest issue: "We tried to get an interview with the sexually ambiguous pop star... but his publicist told us he'd 'never talk to a gay magazine!' Well, why pray tell, is that?" The New York Post wasn't able to get a response from Aiken's rep on the matter.

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It's not much of a stretch to figure out that all these gay gossip sites and gay gossip mongers are pissed off at Clay. We know Clay is straight, but it's not what they believe or want.

And yes, a segment of Clay's fan base is Christian so your theory about eliminating that segment has a good chance of being correct. Homosexuality is called an abomination in the Bible.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination"


Throw Michael Lucas and his beliefs that all gay celebrities should be outed into the mix, along with wanna be porn star stalker boy (who is the perfect patsy).

Mix in a sprinkling of so-called "fans" who
a)think Clay is lying
b)thought they could get close to him and are angry they didn't
c)are pot stirrers
d)just plain hate Clay
e)are out to destroy Clay and his fan base

and you've got yourself a recipe for a fine MESS

May 06, 2006 12:24 PM  
Blogger Canucker said...

What I find a silver lining in this whole MESS is that people care enough about Clay to even be talking about him.

The haters know he is on the brink of being a HUGE star and that is why they've stepped up the smear campaign now.

It might have all backfired though. No one likes bullies (except other bullies that is) and this whole MESS might end up gaining Clay much respect for how he has handled himself during adversity.

May 06, 2006 12:29 PM  
Blogger casey said...

Thanks for the info. I really want to find out the names of the people who put this all in motion.

I'm not sure if it is any of the names we have already heard. I think they are only symptoms, I want to find the roots of this.

I also don't want to say that all of the people in this organization are in on it, but maybe some of them are willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want.

I'll see what I can find.

May 06, 2006 12:46 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

I could be totally out to lunch on this but I think the big name players just took advantage of stalker boy.

As soon as stalker boy started receiving some heat they distanced themselves from him. He's not welcome at Billy Masters' blog. Perez said he's not writing about him anymore and called him barfugly.

May 06, 2006 12:56 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

truth, I think you're right...stalkerboy was WAAAAAY to nutso and the big boys had no clue about that until it was too late.

The thing is, the big dawgs could literally create their own scenario where stalkerboy is left holding the bag. Heck Mucas/Lucas could have a whole new "movie script".

What I can't believe is it appears that stalkerboy does absolutely nothing else all day long but sit on his computer. How can that be possible? Does he have no friends, no social life, doesn't he ever want to go to a movie or get a drink?

He is so frickin' possessed and obsessed nothing matters but that vile blog.

May 06, 2006 1:13 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

Another thought to delve into. There was an anonymous poster at WSCA who seemed to really want us to back off the Photoshopped TG Webcam saying it was a gift from Lindsey whomever who did Webcam with Clay. He/She said it was Pre-Idol makeover. Welllllll... why did Clay have the same Thom Yorke hairstyle on the right side of his head as Thom Yorke did in the Kendall Gallery pics?

I really, really feel he's connected. Why oh why would he use the same photo or one similar from the same gallery? This has got to be some sordid, private joke between whomever did the photoshopping and the people that used them. What's the damned joke?

May 06, 2006 1:36 PM  
Blogger Truth Rules said...

I saw that webcam shot and it didn't make me think pre-idol. Do you believe that story?

May 06, 2006 2:23 PM  
Blogger yeahthat said...

I didn't think pre-idol, either...he wasn't wearing glasses and his hair wasn't the same as in his audtion.

I think TG used the one from that myspace account and reversed it..

May 06, 2006 2:35 PM  
Blogger rtm said...

Waves at truth....I finally got up the gumption to post! As to that 'pre-idol' post...that's more bull IMO. The picture in those webcam shots is full and more mature...Clay's face wasn't as full pre-Idol....

May 06, 2006 2:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can tell by the context of the message of "Emach" that she is the main Clayhater poster over there. Who is she anyway? Anyone have a picture of her? She is probably the one hating on Claymates and calling them fat, ugly, old, and insane too. You can tell she is scared of Clay and she knows Clay's career is big and that MOM surpassed Kelly's thankful in sales and she is intimidated and is resulting to spreading false accusations. She needs to be brought down, just like John.

May 06, 2006 3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is Groucho? Who is Emach? Anyone have pictures of them?

May 06, 2006 3:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a vocal and emotion coach, I must say that Clay Aiken has a better voice than Kelly Clarkson. She sings with too many runs and a weak falsetto. She has strength in her voice and emotion, but she has no control or power. She also has no range, which makes her voice sound "too common". Clay Aiken has more of a connection with his music and it shows. He also sings with strength, but has a fantastic range and definitely possesses control and power. Clay shows emotion, but people who are unaccepting to someone who sings effortlessly as opposed to someone who sings with too much effort, will disagree because they do not know anything about music. I have watched the current American Idol and have watched it since the first season. There is no one on the show that compares to Clay Aiken. He is in a league of his own.

May 06, 2006 3:09 PM  
Anonymous Scorpio said...

Emach is one of many. She is a Ruben fan that has excelled at impersonating crazed Clay fans. Add her to the crazed Kelly fans and you have pure HATE. But they are only some of the players in this wretched game.

May 06, 2006 3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one can sing as good as Clay Aiken. No one! Clay Aiken is naturally gifted. He is the voice that launched a thousand ships.

May 06, 2006 3:14 PM  
Blogger Oh Crap said...

I knew it wasn't the pre-Idol makeover era. They had his hair too dark and eyebrows as well then. They had his hair smoother and further back off his face then with a widows peak.

When I saw that photo of TY from JP's blog and Casey said to look at certain features, I headed straight for the BOI article that had the "webcam" shot and that shot was the one from TG's site. There was no hesitation

May 06, 2006 3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does Emach look like? Is she the black chick that posts over on AmericanIdol.com in the season 2 discussions?

May 06, 2006 3:14 PM  
Anonymous ClayFan12 said...

Click on my name and go to this entry. Scroll down and look at the replies, the one girl that calls herself Bapzz34. Also FrenchiDavis. That is obviously Emach and Groucho. They both type just like them. You can tell it's them.

May 06, 2006 3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bapzz34 types just like Emach. I don't know if it's her or not. It could be.

May 06, 2006 3:29 PM  
Anonymous Scorpio said...

Not Emach, not groucho.

May 06, 2006 4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emach is scary but Groucho is scarier. Groucho reminds me of someone who would shoot little kids if they threw apples at his house. The man is scary and sort of stalkerish. Almost as bad as John, but more sly because he is more cowardly with his replies. Still a devient moron, who will be exposed eventually and brought down with the other scum.

May 06, 2006 6:53 PM  

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